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  • Cost of P2

    Posted by Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations on October 23, 2005 at 6:46 am

    What is the difference of P2 card and the one used by Thomson Infinity?
    Will the performance and durability be the same??
    Why is the cost of P2 so much higher then memory stick used by Thomson?
    Will this cost have negative influence on future Panasonic ENG camera sales??
    5 P2 sticks is about $10,000.
    5 cards supplied for Infinity is about $2,500.
    Maybe somebody can help here with some answers.

    Jiri Vrzona,australia

    Daryl K davis replied 20 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Paul Harb

    October 23, 2005 at 7:14 pm

    I dont know, but that Thompson camera is awesome and I really think that is the future, camera that you can adjust codecs, bit rates, frame rates…ect in the camera just like you would change capture settings in an NLE…..now its just what media do we use for storage…..

    Paul

  • Toke

    October 23, 2005 at 10:21 pm

    Yep, it’s missing only one codec: a progressive one…
    …and that’s why I’m not buing it.

  • Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations

    October 23, 2005 at 10:58 pm

    [toke lahti] “Yep, it’s missing only one codec: a progressive one…
    …and that’s why I’m not buing it.”

    It has got 720p as well…

  • Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations

    October 23, 2005 at 11:03 pm

    Sorry,I correct myself,You meant 25p.
    I am sure this could be corrected by software upgrade.
    Panasonic did the same with Pana800.

  • Barry Green

    October 24, 2005 at 7:52 am

    [jiri vrozina] “What is the difference of P2 card and the one used by Thomson Infinity?”

    The Infinity uses a single compactflash card. They say it uses “professional grade”, but don’t specify what that means. Presumably they’re using the very fastest cards; a Sandisk Extreme III is the fastest CompactFlash card available, and it can handle a data transfer rate of 160 megabits per second.

    A P2 card uses four of those caliber of cards (SD instead of CompactFlash) in an array, so the P2 card has the same capacity but four times the speed.

    P2 cards are proprietary, CompactFlash is a readily-available off-the-shelf type of product, but: most compactflash cards are way too slow to use to record on something like the Infinity! You’ll need high-speed ones like the Extreme III.

    [jiri vrozina] “Will the performance and durability be the same??”

    Don’t know.

    [jiri vrozina] “Why is the cost of P2 so much higher then memory stick used by Thomson?”

    It’s not. A 4gb 20-megabyte-per-second Extreme III card carries an MSRP of $799.95. A 4gb P2 card (at 80 megabytes per second) carries an MSRP of $900. So yes it’s a little more, about 12% more, but then again it’s four times as fast.

    Now, the street price of a 4gb Extreme III is a lot less; it “streets” at around $450. But to be fair, we don’t know what the “street price” of a P2 card is yet, so we can’t make a direct comparison. The only direct comparison we can make is by MSRP, and they’re very comparable in price.

    [jiri vrozina] “5 cards supplied for Infinity is about $2,500.”
    $500 for 8gb? That seems pretty unlikely. An 8gb Sandisk Ultra II streets at $725 each, and they’re only half as fast as what you’d need (the Extreme III). There is no 8gb Extreme III out yet.

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  • Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations

    October 24, 2005 at 11:23 am

    Thank You Barry for that info.
    While at it,how about 35gig Iomega REV cards??
    They seem to be cheap at $75 per one.

  • Graeme Nattress

    October 24, 2005 at 12:08 pm

    I think there’s a bunch of people out there, like myself, who through bad experience, would never touch another Iomega product again. I had click of death take down about 10 drives and discs in one day as it spread like a virus around a computer lab….. Once bitten….

    Graeme

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  • Kyle S

    October 24, 2005 at 2:22 pm

    Grame,

    I knokw at times Iomega had seroius quality control issues with who ever was doing their manufactoring. I would hope that Thompson is holding them to a higher standard, if not it wil be bad for both of them.

    Kyle

  • Ron Shook

    October 24, 2005 at 2:49 pm

    Kyle,

    [Kyle S] “I would hope that Thompson is holding them to a higher standard”

    Of course they will. They aren’t about to bet their reputation on suspect technology.

    Ron Shook

  • Toke

    October 25, 2005 at 11:26 am

    With 2/3″ full resolution CCDs, I’d say that 1080p is needed…

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