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  • Copying events WITH track motion keyframes

    Posted by Gilles Gagnon on August 22, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Hi folks,
    Calling all Vegas gurus! 🙂

    Is this possible? It would save me a lot of work as I have many keyframes animating a lower third. I need to use this same lower third on in other locations on my timeline.

    Is there a way to copy the track motion keyframes along with my events?

    Gilles

    Gilles Gagnon replied 12 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Angelo Mike

    August 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    It seems like you’d have to duplicate the track and then delete whatever you don’t need.

  • Steve Rhoden

    August 22, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    For a clean workflow doing this, I would recommend you
    simply save your lower third only, as a project.
    (name it Lower third), then in your major project you
    simply drag this lower third project to the timeline above
    your track as you would any other video file. This is called
    Nesting, very handy feature.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Norman Black

    August 22, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Track motion keyframes are a part of the track and could care less if any events that may or may not exist. So to duplicate track keyframes duplicate the track.

    Event pan/crop keyframes are a part of a specific event. You might want to animate your lower third with pan/crop if possible. The stretch to fit pan/crop option is probably something you would want to change. Pan/crop keyframes are copied with an event and move with the event, unlike track keyframes.

  • Stephen Mann

    August 23, 2013 at 4:02 am

    Steve’s solution is the best. I do lower-thirds all the time and I only have to “create” the graphics and motion once.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Gilles Gagnon

    August 23, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Thanks for all your input gentlemen. Much appreciate the ideas.

    In this case I’m using track motion, not event motions (crop/pan) because I use track parenting and “track motion” the parent.
    Think a lower third popping from the bottom with background and text.

    I guess I could have used Steve’s method of nesting a project, but I would have had the same issue. That is, I would have had to do track parenting with another track containing the lower-third text and motion both via parent track motion. In copying this “set” for multiple use, I still would need to copy the parent track-motion keyframes.

    I ended up opening the parent track motion track to reveal the keyframes, selecting them (five in my case) and copying them at various locations where I copied all the lower-third “sets” I wanted. I was hoping to copy/paste the whole shabang in one swoop.

    Gilles

  • Stephen Mann

    August 23, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    “Think a lower third popping from the bottom with background and text.”

    OK, same answer. I am having trouble conceptualizing the case where you need parent track motion. Can you post a short video of what you’re doing?

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Dave Affholter

    August 23, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Open the track motion keyframe editor and select the first keyframe then shift+select the last keyframe. Right click and select “copy” (you may be able to use ctrl+c…I’m not sure). Go to the beginning of the next lower third where you want to apply the keyframe and paste them. (You can easily locate the position of the lower third using the cursor lock button in the bottom of the track fx editor.

    Dave Affholter
    Championship Grade Video

  • Gilles Gagnon

    August 26, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Thanks Dave,
    That’s exactly what I had to do. I was trying to avoid this by copy/pasting the keyfrmes with the events. Evidently, this can’t be done.

    Cheers,

    Gilles

  • Gilles Gagnon

    August 26, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Stephen,
    the parent track motion was used to animate 2 tracks at once, using only one set of keyframes.

    one track contained a lower third background, the other, the text to be displayed on that background. The parent track motion allowed me to move both, together, from off-screen to on-screen.
    without parent track motion, each event or track would have required its own keyframe set. If/when an edit is required, its much more inconvenient than changing a single parent track motion.

    Gilles

  • Stephen Mann

    August 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    OK, same answer.

    I am having trouble conceptualizing the case where you need parent track motion. Can you post a short video of what you’re doing?

    In my example I did exactly this without a single keyframe or parent/child relationship.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

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