Copied sequence from 29.97 timebase to 23.98 sequence – FCP is cutting out some frames

[Greg Baldi]

Try changing your sequence settings back to 23.98 first. (Command+0) That should work for you and not effect the timeline.

-Greg Baldi
Post Production Editor

[Shane Ross]

[Elijah Lynn] “1 – Is this expected behaviour?”

Yup. One frame rate to another frame rate sequence does this. DON’T DO IT! This is the wrong way to accomplish what you are trying to accomplish. What are you trying to accomplish?

[Elijah Lynn] “2 – Is there anything I can do to correct this short of going through the entire sequence and doing ripple deletes and pull ups?”

Don’t do it. If you are trying to convert your 23.98 sequence to a 29.97 sequence, you do that either by outputting via a capture card, or exporting a full res movie, and using COMPRESSOR to convert…the FULL movie. Not the clips.

Shane

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[Chris Kenny]

[Shane Ross] “Don’t do it. If you are trying to convert your 23.98 sequence to a 29.97 sequence, you do that either by outputting via a capture card, or exporting a full res movie, and using COMPRESSOR to convert…the FULL movie. Not the clips.”

If I understand the original post correctly, I think he’s got 23.98 footage that was edited into a 29.97 sequence, and he’s trying to rebuild that sequence as 23.98. In other words, the mistake you’re trying to warn him against was already committed, and he’s trying to clean up the mess.

And yes, the way to do this is indeed to copy the footage into a 23.98 sequence and then either extend or move clips to close the resulting gaps. (Which are normal, presumably a consequence of clip durations that round to frame numbers a different way in a different timebase.)

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[Shane Ross]

Ahhhh…righty-o.

Sorry, you need to manually fix this. Gap by gap.

Sequences won’t allow you to change the editing timebase. It’s locked.

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[Elijah Lynn]

Hey Shane,

Thanks for your input, what I am trying to do is just edit in the right timebase, from what I understand you shouldn’t edit 23.98 footage in a 29.97 timebase.

I just went through the first sequence and marked 16 occurrences of this happening over the duration of 1.5 hours. I have 10 sequences total so it would be that bad if I had to do this for every sequence, if this is okay is this all I would have to worry about or are there any audio issues I could run into?

[Elijah Lynn]

Great, this is the direction I need to hear! As long as this is expected I will do the grunt work and learn from this experience!

Cheers,

Elijah

[Elijah Lynn]

Thanks for the suggestion Greg,

When I go to my sequence settings the editing timebase is grayed out. From my past understanding, we only get one chance to set the editing timebase, at the beginning, is there another way to do it that you know of?

Elijah

[David Roth weiss]

[Elijah Lynn] “When I go to my sequence settings the editing timebase is grayed out. From my past understanding, we only get one chance to set the editing timebase, at the beginning, is there another way to do it that you know of?”

You would have to open a new sequence, set the editing timebase to the new setting, then copy and paste from the old sequence into the new one.

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[Greg Baldi]

You don’t have to copy and paste into a new sequence. Just go to Sequence – Settings and change it there and it will update the timeline you have open. Then you wont experience any gaps in your footage.

-Greg Baldi
Post Production Editor

[Elijah Lynn]

Okay, that’s what I thought and that is what I did, I thought maybe there was something I am overlooking, it makes sense why FCP would make it locked down if it causes these issues.

Thanks