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  • Converting to 24P

    Posted by Steve Edwards on July 6, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    I have looked at few comments, and was wondering what would happen if I converted my 60i wedding footage to 24P. Any advantage, video/audio. My project is already on the timeline, sync’d up (2 cameras)multi-cam used (Excalibur 5.5), and camera switches set. From what I have read, you have to choose the 24P setting BEFORE you begin you project, so I may already be beyond this point, without having to start from scratch, which I don’t want to do.

    John Rofrano replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    July 7, 2009 at 11:09 am

    You can always work in 60i and render to 24p at the end. This is a viable option. The reason people say to start with 24p is so that all of your generated media is inserted at 24p and so that all of your editing decisions are made at 24p. This will also avoid any “ghosting” due to blending of 60i frames into 24p. It’s up to you which workflow works better for your project.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Edwards

    July 7, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Is there really any difference in the outcome of the video, and audio? Anything that the client would notice? It’s a wedding video.

  • D. Eric franks

    July 7, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    I used to do this all of the time, edit in 60i (because that is my camera source and it makes editing more pleasant) and distribute in 24p (because that’s my distribution format [Vimeo, YouTube] – not because I wanted the mythical “film look”, which cannot be achieved by merely changing the frame rate). In order to catch any oddities, I switched the entire project to 24p near the end of the edit and… I always found 1 frame oddities. I’m using all kinds of media at all kinds of frame rates, so I guess it’s not entirely surprising and usually, I’d loose a frame on a still image or animation, so you may or may not have problems, but I just wanted to give you a caution.

    Still, absolutely no problems that couldn’t be fixed and fixed very easily, you just have to know to watch out for them.

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    a fillet of sole, it would be about me.

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  • Steve Edwards

    July 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    So you are saying that there would be no noticeable difference in the looks of the video? There is no real reason to do in 24P, if there isn’t any change of looks.

  • Steve Rhoden

    July 7, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    When im not using Magic Bullet Frames in after effects,
    i use VASST Celluloid in Vegas, to convert my footage
    to 24p….But do so only when i want to avoid that rank video
    look and give my projects a more organic/film feel.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Creative Arts Director and Film Maker.
    Project Samples at:
    http://www.youtube.com/hentys

  • John Rofrano

    July 7, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    If you did not shoot in 24p then you may see some big differences if you panned too quickly for it to play back smoothly at 24p. You don’t just buy a 24p camera and start shooting. You need to learn to how to shoot 24p because you need to be sensitive to what that framerate can and cannot do. There can be a lot of unwanted stuttering with quick camera movements. You will not see any of this when shooting at 60i. It will only be noticeable after you convert to 24p.

    You also may see some ghosting in frames as 30 frames get blended into 24. This may especially be more noticeable in high action scenes. Then again, you may notice nothing. It depends on the contents of the video. I would try a render and see how it looks to your eyes. Many times you can just render to 24p and it looks pretty darn good.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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