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  • converting 29.97 to 23.98

    Posted by The Hungry bull on April 11, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    I am about to finish editing a feature legnth movie that was shot at 23.98 fps on HDCAM with the Sony F900. I downcoverted the footage via the HDCAM deck into my final cut system at 29.97 fps DV. Now that the picture is locked at around 90 minutes, I want to upconvert the footage to HD. However, the original footage is at 23.98 and the footage on my final cut timeline is 29.97. Thus, the offline and the online footage aren’t lining up. Is there any way that I can convert the standard def footage on my timeline to 23.98fps so that it matches the timecode of the original footage?

    Chris Poisson replied 19 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    April 11, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    You need to export an EDL, use Cinema Tools to convert that EDL from 29.97 to 23.98, then reimport that EDL into a new project. You will now have a 23.98 timeline that you can use to recapture from the HDCAM masters.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Scott Smith

    April 11, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Hungry Bull, there are more qualified people than I to help you through this, but I have to wonder why your original footage was 24 fps, and your end result needs to be 24 fps, yet you converted to–and edited at–30 fps. Or maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.

    I think you may want to see if you can export the EDL and reimport your original footage into a 24 FPS sequence. Then maybe the EDL will help recronstruct all of the edits. I’m not sure how good a 30 fps EDL will work on a 24 fps sequence. It may take some work, and maybe someone else has good advice on how to accomplish this.

    As far as converting the footage goes, there’s an good option using after effects. Andrew Kramer has a good tutorial here: https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_page_wrapper.cgi?forumid=1&page=https://www.creativecow.net/articles/kramer_andrew/fps/index.html that will really walk you through conversion.

  • Shane Ross

    April 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    [ssmith3] “I’m not sure how good a 30 fps EDL will work on a 24 fps sequence. It may take some work, and maybe someone else has good advice on how to accomplish this.”

    I did this on a short film, when I had NO CLUE about HD and proper workflows. The post facility was new at this too. We telecined super 16mm to HDCAM, then downconverted to DVCAM for the offline edit. I cut at 29.97, but then needed to online at 23.98. Converting the EDL was what I did, and it worked out rather well.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • The Hungry bull

    April 11, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    Shane, thanks for the help. Is cinema tools a plug in I need to buy? or is it included in the final cut bundle? thanks again!

  • Shane Ross

    April 11, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    Cinema Tools is one of the applications that comes bundled with Final Cut Pro Studio. In your Applications folder.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Chris Poisson

    April 12, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Just an observer here, but is the reason you guys both cut 24 fps material on a 29.97 timeline because you didn’t have a card that could play it through to a regular monitor? Or am I missing something else here?

    Seems like a really dumb workflow otherwise, no offence intended. Just trying to learn…

    OTH, what about using Nattress Standards Converter on the 29.97 timeline?

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