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convert HD NTSC to SD PAL
Posted by Jason Brown on July 12, 2010 at 1:00 pmI’m curious of settings in regards to converting XDCAM HD progressive to PAL delivery.
I don’t have much experience with that conversion, so couple questions.
1) They are asking for 720×576 – is that the equivalent of 720×480? Would that be anamorphic if it were widescreen?
2) The frame is 25fps. Is there anything I need to do on the downconvert from 29.97?
Is compressor the best setting to use? DV PAL Anamorphic for my widescreen footage.
-Jason
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Jerry Hofmann
July 12, 2010 at 1:26 pmWell, yes and no… the frame size they want is the correct one for PAL. It still comes out 4:3. I doubt they want anamorphic DV… Only thing you need to set is the option to make it letterboxed or cropped on the sides. But I’d also be asking them which codec they want… uncompressed, ProRes, etc.
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Daniel Ludwig
July 12, 2010 at 1:36 pmHi Janson,
this is germany calling 😉1.) yes, 720×576 is the SD-PAL-equivalent to NTSC and it will be anamorphic.
2.) you´ve told that the original material is 1080p29.98 so there are a few ways.
a) using apple Cinema Tools:
if you would go that way, you will change the meta-data of your film from “played at 29.98fps” to “played at 25fps”. that will cause a slowdown of the film and the audio, too. so it will be longer! this could only be done with progressive material.NOTE: it will change the frame-rate from your source-material, so you better dublicate it first!
b) using apple Compressor:
with compressor you can create SD-PAL direct from your 1080p29.98. for that you need to create a new export-setting.you need to select the 3rd. option (frame control) and turn it on. then you can set resizing and retiming.
if you need to have the same lenth/duration this would be your best choice.
now to your codec: if your customer expect good picture-quality DON`T use the DV-codec, that´s to bad. I would use PRO RES HQ instead or 8bit uncompressed if you have enough disk-space.
PAL SD-material normally has upper field first
NOTE: using frame-control will result in long processing/rendering-time.
cheers
danny
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Jason Brown
July 12, 2010 at 1:44 pmAwesome…thanks for the response guys…
Footage is progressive…I’ll get clarification on codec.
I have alot of HD and SOME SD (sd is widescreen).
I’d like to have the footage retain the same length…it would look strange otherwise, so I’m going to use compressor with frame control on.
Thanks…I’ll follow up with results.
-Jason
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Bouke Vahl
July 12, 2010 at 2:26 pmNope.
If the source is widescreen, we (PAL guys) want the entire image squeezed into 720×576.WE DO NOT WANT LETTERBOXED 4:3 NOR 16:9 MATERIAL.
(Unless it’s film that is wider than 16:9, then we want anamorphic 16:9 with a bit of letterbox)
Bouke
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Stefan Latoure
September 22, 2010 at 2:42 amJason, how did this work for you? I have to do the same thing, just wondering. Thanks.
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Jason Brown
September 22, 2010 at 4:29 amMan, it has been awhile ago since I did this…but I’m pretty sure I did the following:
Footage was all progressive, so I didn’t have to deal with interlacing.
I used compressor and converted the SD to anamorphic using compressor’s apple setting for DV-PAL, the HD was converted the same way.. It came out with the DV-PAL codec, at the appropriate frame size.
I haven’t had any issue reported to me, so I assume it worked correctly…
HTH…
-Jason
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