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Content questions for a new era?
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What I found here is that speeding a voice up, an empty message may sounds like something interesting.
Apart of that, old school video production, well planned and executed.
what I like is the records covers on the background. Good memories.
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[Bill Davis] “Since my point seemed to escape some – I didn’t post this as a “look at how brilliant these ideas are” deal. I posted it because I’m interested in, and trying to track a bit about what video is “becoming” on the web.”
Video on the internet isn’t becoming anything. The internet has always been a repository for everything good, bad, indifferent or illegal. All content is there from skateboarding dogs and the latest Hollywood movies to dwarf pole-dancers and annoying, self-gratifying commentators like the one you posted.
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[Bill Davis] “we’re truly down to content quality being remaining separator – rather than access to specialist tools.”
And that’s why everyday I go teach media production classes to at-risk high school students. (That and the fact that there’s very little production work in Reno and my wife is in a PhD program till 2016.)
Here’s one of the ads the kids made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tojT42CWFs being run in our local market on MTV.
We shot on a Panny DVC20P and lit with Lowell lights that won’t actually stand up and edited on PP 4.2 on Windows XP with 4GB RAM and a junky video card.
NOTE: With Perkins grant money I bought $10k in new equipment that will serve 125 kids this year.
Last week I started teaching “multimedia”; how to export video for the web and author html. I could not teach it fast enough. They actually put their phones down and paid attention! The running theme through the 2012 NACTE conference was “techno-literacy”; what I call video literacy: reading and writing motion picture content. The issue is a critical thinking problem; how do we tune out the bad and tune in the good?
(Feel free to donate a month of Adobe Creative Cloud. Thanks!)
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[Chris Harlan] “So, your point is that a video like this is somehow new?”
No Chris.
The video is not what’s new and frankly, I’m surprised that you aren’t getting the point. The content is not new at all. The development of tremendous numbers of content streams outside broadcast that are succeeding in building their own niche audiences – combined with a robust business model (YouTube, et al) that allows them to find and mine that audience for revenue IS pretty new.
You can filter it as, “it’s not new” just as you can filter that email is not new, since it’s just the post office with a few computer twists. And Facebook is just the grocery store bulletin board with a few computer twists. And iTunes is just a record store with a few computer twists. None of these are “new” in a fundamental way. But fortunes are being made in all these areas by people who aren’t getting stuck with the “is it really new?” trap. And trying to figure out what about it IS new and might be worth understanding.
I like trying to understand change. I can’t find any interest (or profit, really) in simply resisting it or dismissing it out of hand.
You may not be curious as to what’s happening in examples like I posted. But I am. And I suspect that others here are as well.
I’m not holding them up as “better” than anything else. Just seeing things that make me feel that the development of skills and sophistication which happened in the early days of TV (when it was the ONLY game in town) are now happening in the web video space.
The cute cat videos are giving way to something else.
I think that’s worth discussing.
If you don’t that’s fine.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Bill Davis] “he development of tremendous numbers of content streams outside broadcast that are succeeding in building their own niche audiences – combined with a robust business model (YouTube, et al) that allows them to find and mine that audience for revenue IS pretty new.”
Bill, what do you mean by “new”? Many of my clients have had their own YouTube channel for years, even the White House has had one since 2009.
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[Liam Hall] “Bill, what do you mean by “new”? Many of my clients have had their own YouTube channel for years, even the White House has had one since 2009.”
So, from 1952 to 2008 (or 07, 06, same point) it was one way.
And from 2008 to today it’s been another way.
That’s a pretty darn good definition of “new” in my book.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Liam Hall] “Video on the internet isn’t becoming anything. The internet has always been a repository for everything good, bad, indifferent or illegal. All content is there from skateboarding dogs and the latest Hollywood movies to dwarf pole-dancers and annoying, self-gratifying commentators like the one you posted.
“Well, we’ll have to disagree here.
I think it’s becoming a new global force. For decades we got what the networks fed us. Then we got what networks and cable fed us. Now we have a portal to a worldwide base of content that sinks or swims in a new global pond of possibility.
Exhibit “A” might be the attached video – with 89 MILLION plus world wide YouTube views. Seems to me that outranks “Who Shot JR?” and the latest American Idol by quite a distance.
There’s no way this would have run on US network TV. Probably not cable either. And if you’d asked me about the state of South Korean video production I probably would have laughed it off as “irrelevant” before I saw this. But they’ve clearly schooled themselves on decades of US cultural content export – and have some interesting cultrual twists to add. But you can’t fault their production quality much.
(it gets weirder and weirder and weirder – and by the end you can’t get the damn song out of your brain – pretty much the perfect pop entertainment!)
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
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[Bill Davis] “[Chris Harlan] “So, your point is that a video like this is somehow new?”
No Chris.
The video is not what’s new and frankly, I’m surprised that you aren’t getting the point. “
That’s because the point(s) you are trying to make seem(s) quite fluid and has(have) apparently altered some from your original post. So, no, I don’t get the point you are trying to make; perhaps when you eventually arrive there, you will share.
[Bill Davis] “I like trying to understand change. I can’t find any interest (or profit, really) in simply resisting it or dismissing it out of hand.
You may not be curious as to what’s happening in examples like I posted. But I am. And I suspect that others here are as well.
“Why do you think I’m dismissing change out of hand? I don’t see anything here that hasn’t been happening for the last half decade or more. I’m just not sure what you are trying to discuss here, or why this piece is somehow an example of something new. From a geological perspective, its quite new. Otherwise, not so much.
[Bill Davis] “I’m not holding them up as “better” than anything else. Just seeing things that make me feel that the development of skills and sophistication which happened in the early days of TV (when it was the ONLY game in town) are now happening in the web video space.
“This would be a terrific observation in 2006-07. And I think everybody who posts here would have agreed with this several or more years ago. Not that its no longer worth talking about, but thats not how you phrased it.
[Bill Davis] “The cute cat videos are giving way to something else.
“Don’t think so. They’ll still be around. As to the available bevy of other more serious, or more ably produced things–there is a lot of that too.
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[Bill Davis] “I think it’s becoming a new global force. For decades we got what the networks fed us. Then we got what networks and cable fed us. Now we have a portal to a worldwide base of content that sinks or swims in a new global pond of possibility.”
Nonsense, Bill. Everyone knows it’s a series of tubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs
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[Bill Davis] “And if you’d asked me about the state of South Korean video production I probably would have laughed it off as “irrelevant” before I saw this. “
Normally the people in the USA don’t know much about what’s going on out of the USA (well, some times knows about the UK).
What many people don’t realize is that nowadays there is more film/video production out of the USA than in the USA. and the gear and technology available to most companies in the USA is available out of the USA too, and I’m not talking about the most developed countries only. There are people shooting with RED (and postproducing accordingly) since in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia (and now some Alexas too). Professionals with the same skills and ideas you could find anywhere else (George Lucas has 400 guys working in Singapore).
About quality, i guess the percentage of good-stuff/crap produced, probably is the same whatever the country of origin.
This korean video clip (and the 80 millions clicks) more than pointing out to the state of the Korean video production shows how the K-Pop (Google it) is sweeping all over East AsiaBTW, 80 millions plays don’t mean 80 millions viewers. The kind of public for this stuff normally can play the same stuff over and over till they fry the computer or the smartphone.
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