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  • Consolidate PP CS6 timeline to ProRes for FCP7

    Posted by Christopher Travis on March 4, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Hi all,

    I guess this is a popular question but not sure how best to search for it.

    I’ve got a job coming up which is shot on Canon 5d so will be all H.264 quicktime movies. I’ve heard plenty of talk about PPs ability to deal with this so am keen to give it a try. The only problem is that the VO studio we have access to only has FCP7. I always like to have an editable timeline when recording VO so I can extend or trim shots around the final recording so I’m loathe to just export a quicktime and record the VO to that.

    Is there a way I can cut the piece on PP on my computer, then consolidate my timeline to ProRes and export an XML that FCP7 can read and relink in FCP 7. If so can someone point me towards a guide to this process online?

    Thanks,
    Chris

    Stephen Smith replied 13 years ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Stephen Smith

    March 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    As far as I understand there is no way to do that. This is the big problem with getting a timeline with RAW clips into color grading applications such as DaVinci. This is the main reason why I still mainly use FCP7. Avid has this capability by the way. I sure hope this is addressed in the newest version of Premiere. Why can’t you recored the VO and then take it back to your place?

    Stephen Smith
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  • Christopher Travis

    March 12, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Thanks for your response.

    I ended up cutting it in FCP7 because I want to have an editable timeline while recording the VO. I could of course record it seperately and drop it in after, but the client will be supervising te session and I want to get them to sign off the clip there and then. Rather than take it home, drop it in, send it over and leave them open to making more changes then.

    A shame really as I really would like to use PP on a project soon. This just wasn’t the one I guess.

    Thanks again anyway.

  • Stephen Smith

    March 12, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    I’m with you, it really is a shame. Walter wrote an article on how this is a problem so I hope it will be addressed in the next version.

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  • Christopher Travis

    March 12, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Just to play this one out…

    The XML isn’t the problem is it? The problem is consolidating a timeline to a new codec right?

    Can you consolidate a project? Would it be possible to cut the clip, then bring only the clips that were used into a new project then consolidate that?

    It’s too late for this project but I’m interested in what media management options there are in PP. can you point me to any interesting articles on this subject?

  • Stephen Smith

    March 12, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Correct, the problem is consolidating a timeline to a new codec. Avid has a feature where it will convert all of the clips in your timeline to what ever codec you want and then you can send it to FCP or DaVinci. It is easy to get things into Premiere but it isn’t easy to get it out to other programs.

    Maybe this article can help: https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/workflow-update-imac-adobe-the-x-factor

    Stephen Smith
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  • Alex Petrovitch

    March 19, 2013 at 5:25 am

    About to jump into the CS6 game.
    Question. I’ve read y’all’s threads.
    Using dSLR footage, from what I understand you can
    1) Edit natively – Correct?
    And if I want to export to Pro Res I can
    2) Set Pro Res export settings within CS6?
    3) Export as h264, then transcode into ProRes using MPEG streamclip?

    Lastly – it seemed that DaVinci does NOT work w/ H264 from your post above? Does that mean that I will have to do steps 2 or 3 from above (use prores in davinci, then have to shoot that back into CS6 as a pro res file, or Re-compress to h264?)
    that seems like some crazy workflows….thoughts???

  • Stephen Smith

    March 19, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    1) Yes, in PPro you can edit Natively, that is one of the big features for me and is really cool.
    2) You can export out your finished edit as PreRes if you want.
    If I’m going to DaVinci I do my edit in FCP. Looks like I’ll have to play around a little with PPro. What I have read is that you need to export out your whole movie and then bring it into DaVinci to work with. DaVinci has an auto detect feature that will find all of the edit points in the clip or you can bring in an EDL to tell it where the edits and dissolves are.

    Stephen Smith
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  • Alex Petrovitch

    March 19, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    thanks for getting back to me!

  • Alex Petrovitch

    March 20, 2013 at 1:22 am

    Got another question for you regarding CS6 regarding import and export.
    Working with DSLR footage. When I open the project, CS6 gives me the option of which camera I’m using. DSLR 1080p. Great. However, I bring in the footage. Drop it on the timeline. Then I go to export, and if I click “match sequence settings”, the video codec says MPEG I-Frame. I would think it was H264 codec. In FCP7, it automatically conforms to the footage. If I dropped native Canon footage on the timeline, it would say H264. (Even though you can’t cut that in FCP7, only prores) I bring this up b/c I ran a test. Export using “match sequence settings”, and it exported really fast. as it should. Then I set it to export at H264, and it takes longer, it’s compressing something. I thought it was H264? And why does CS6 export a mp4, not a mov?

    Your import/export expertise would be greatly appreciated, as I’m about to start a big project, and I want to set everything up correctly.

    Alex Petrovitch
    http://www.markwoodfilms.com
    2013 iMAC 3.4 Quad Core i7, 32GB RAM, 3TB Fusion
    FCP7/CS6/AVID
    Canon 7D&5Dmk3
    Panasonic HVX200

  • Stephen Smith

    April 29, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    I have an update on Premiere Pro to DaVinci Resolve workflow for Cannon DSLR: We shot a video with the 5D Mark II. I brought the RAW files into PPro and edit the project. It included speed changes. I then created an XML file and brought the project into DaVinci Resolve. I color graded the RAW files and then rendered them out and brought them back into PPro. DaVinci won’t work with all codecs (most of the cameras we shot with) but it will work with the h.264 that the 5D creates. Here is a link to the final project:

    https://reels.creativecow.net/film/making-a-difference-catholic-community-services-of-utah

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