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Considering a HVX200 purchase
Posted by Justin Hawley on March 13, 2008 at 8:22 pmHello,
I currently own a Sony DCR-VX2100 but I am thinking of entering the HD realm.
I do mostly multiple camera live events, and tv commercials. I want to do a lot more chroma key commercial in particular to take advantage of better sampling than mini-DV.
My question: What, in your educated opinions, are the best camera/recording options available to me?? I LOVE the idea of recording 2+ hour live performances directly to hard disk, but not so much if I have to spend an extra $2,000 per camera.
Any thoughts? I’m looking for basically those 2 things: Good HD quality with good Chroma sampling, and the ability to record (solid state, if possible, otherwise best advice) live shows that are frequently around 2 hours long.
Thank you SO MUCH for your advice!!
Justin Hawley.
Rennie Klymyk replied 18 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 15 Replies -
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Lars Wikstrom
March 13, 2008 at 9:00 pmWell if you got a 32 gig card and recorded DV25 to the card for your live events you could get around 2 hours I would think. I know 4 gigs gets you 16 minutes.
I like the camera because there are so many different formats to shoot with. DV 25/50/100 1080i/720p. You can select what is right format for your project. I don’t know why people shoot HDV? Tape drop outs 4:1:1 and GOP compression. not to mention that HDV is the same bandwidth as mini-dv but it is way more compressed. I don’t get it.
-Lars
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Nate Stephens
March 13, 2008 at 11:55 pmJustin,
Get the HVX200, a 32 foot firewire cable from Granite Digital $85, a MacBookPro with 4gigs ram $2,500 and change, a sata express card from Addonics.com $65, and two sata drive, 2.5″ 160gig sata x2 is about $260,, I am currently testing extra budget Calvary sata drives 500gigs at 110 each… and I also just got a Westinghouse 24″ monitor from Best Buy $389,, to monitor the HVX and the computer, add a small cart to arrange the gear on, place next to tripod and your good to go… Plus you can edit the show before you leave the location.. .. I am recording everything to the mirrored sata drives… I love data back ups.. 160 gig mirrored is about 2.5 hours and the 500gig should be about 7 hours 1080i using Final Cut Pro… capture now.
I haven’t done any location yet , but we did do a chromakey spot for a politician.. worked great..
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Jim Carswell
March 14, 2008 at 3:11 am64gig cards are coming out in the fall. That’s your two hours at 1080p or 1080i. A heck of a lot more than that at 720pn24.
JimJim Carswell
Spyhop Productions, Inc.
Savannah, GA
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Lars Wikstrom
March 14, 2008 at 4:38 amI wouldn’t know where to store 64 gigs. They might reach a point where it is over kill for some people. I am very happy with 16.
-Lars
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Dave Neyman
March 15, 2008 at 2:43 amI agree with the 16GB size. It about the length of a normal tape at 720P 24PN. That way you are forced to back up quickly. Imagine how bad it would be to have 160+ minutes on a 32GB card and have something go wrong. That’s a lot of reshooting.
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Rennie Klymyk
March 15, 2008 at 6:55 am[Jim Carswell] “64gig cards are coming out in the fall. That’s your two hours at 1080p or 1080i”
You only get 64 min. at 1080/60i/30p and 720/60p on a 64gb card.
“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan
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Jim Carswell
March 15, 2008 at 2:12 pmThe camera has two card slots which means two 64 gig cards hence the two hours of record time.
JimJim Carswell
Spyhop Productions, Inc.
Savannah, GA
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Lars Wikstrom
March 15, 2008 at 6:04 pmI got to say that I don’t think I would buy a 64 gig card. People who are waiting for the Blue-Ray drives to use as back up will not hold 64 gigs.
I bought an exbyte tape drive just because the P2 footage was building in my computer. For me using more smaller cards is a better work flow then and back up system then a few large ones.
I could not image someone trying to segment a 64 gig file to back up on 4.2 gig dvd-r’s.You would have to keep your quicktimes and toss out the master fotoage.
-Lars
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Rennie Klymyk
March 15, 2008 at 6:49 pmSorry, I misunderstood. You actually can get 2 hours per card with the AVC-I codec @ 50mbs so this whole capacity thing is getting confusing.
“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan
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Jim Carswell
March 15, 2008 at 8:11 pmLars,
I look at it from the stand point of billing the client for a hard drive dedicated to archiving their material. The 64 gig limit really isn’t an issue for me. My system is based on 11 terabytes dedicated to external video storage. And on top of that I dedicate 500GB or 1 terabyte external drives as storage for each clients project. So for me, 64 gig cards would be ideal and would serve me better than my 100 gig Firestore.
JimJim Carswell
Spyhop Productions, Inc.
Savannah, GA
http://www.spyhopproductions.com
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