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  • Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original

    Posted by Jeff Coleman on November 2, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    I have movie files imported into FCP from Sony EX-3 SxS cards via XDCam Transfer utility.
    The footage is 1920×1080 30p.
    I’ve put these files into Compressor and converted them to ProRes 422 HQ SD, 16×9 Anamorphic (see bottom for summary settings).
    They resultant SD movie looks terribly jaggy and soft.
    I’ve tried FCS2 and FCS3 with the same result.
    I’ve tried successfully using Squeeze to convert these files and they look good using Squeeze, but take a lot longer to convert.

    What settings do you use to convert these HD EX movies into SD movies?

    Name: Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) HD to SD 720x486psf 16×9
    Description: Apple ProRes 422 video with audio pass-through. Settings based off the source resolution and frame-rate.
    File Extension: mov
    Estimated size: 28.28 GB/hour of source
    Audio: multi-track passthrough
    Video Encoder
    Format: QT
    Width: 720
    Height: 486
    Pixel aspect ratio: NTSC CCIR 601/DV (16:9)
    Crop: None
    Padding: (L: 0, T: 2, R: 0, B: 4)
    Frame rate: (100% of source)
    Selected: 29.97
    Frame Controls: Automatically selected: Off
    Codec Type: Apple ProRes 422 (HQ)
    Multi-pass: Off, frame reorder: Off
    Automatic gamma correction
    Progressive
    Chroma filtering enabled
    Pixel depth: 24
    Spatial quality: 50
    Min. Spatial quality: 0
    Temporal quality: 0
    Min. temporal quality: 0

    ____
    FCS3
    FCP 7.0.3
    OS 10.5.8
    QT 7.6.6

    Jeff Coleman replied 15 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Shane Ross

    November 2, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    It takes longer because it is probably doing better calculations with the conversion. To get Compressor to do this, you need to go to the Inspector, and to the FRAME CONTROLS in there, and turn all the FRAME CONTROLS to the BEST settings.

    Why are you making this SD? Just curious…

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jeff Coleman

    November 2, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    I’m converting to SD because half of my footage is SD. Deliverable is web only which we’ll do at 16×9.

    I’m pretty sure in Frame Controls I looked at changing all the settings to Best, but didn’t see any difference in Compressor’s Preview window between the settings. The ProRes side of the split screen looked soft and jaggy.

    Should I have seen a difference in the Preview window? (monitoring a split screen between orig and downconverted codec settings)
    Or would I not see the difference until it output the movie?

  • Shane Ross

    November 2, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    I never see the difference until I output, which is why I do small chunks as tests. There are IN and OUT points in Compressor you can use to encode small chunks, and tweak settings. That PREVIEW window never shows me what I will be getting.

    SO you’ll be delivering to the web at 720×480 or less? Not in glorious H.264 HD 1280×720? Personally I’d upconvert the SD via Compressor. But I know many wouldn’t…

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Paul Jay

    November 3, 2010 at 2:34 am

    As Shane said:

    Frame Controls: Automatically selected: Off

    That’s ABSOLUTELY your main issue

    In my opinion HD to SD always needs resize filter to BEST to look good in Compressor.
    Especially when your source has a codec like HDV or XDCAM EX.

  • Jeff Coleman

    November 8, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    I re-rendered with the frame controls set to “Best” and everything looks good now.
    Thank you Shane and Paul.

    Love,
    Jeff

    Final Cut Studio 5.1, G5 2GHz Dual Processr, 2.5Gb RAM, AJA IO

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