Compositing space limited?

[John Frank]

Sorry for double posting, but to give you guys a better understanding here’s a link to the tutorial I’m trying to copy:

https://aetuts.com/tutorials/motion-graphics/design-rhythmic-motion-typography-in-after-effects/

yes I know it’s for AE, and in the tutorial he has a 3D space camera, I think that’s the reason I’m failing at it cause vegas just moves the objects around, there is no camera (atleast to my knowledge)

[Rob Strobbe]

By rotating the parent track, you’ve rotated all of its children. (But you knew that part.) And because you rotated the track with “seen,” the media’s onscreen dimensions have changed. Instead of being 1280×720, it is now 720×1280 — the original width is now its height, and its original height is now its width. Your text is being cut off because you’ve moved it past the media’s edge.

The quick solution would be to open the “seen” text media and change its dimensions there to 720×1280 (thereby making the rotated version 1280×720. 😉

Don’t worry, this will not affect your project’s dimensions. Media dimensions are created by default as the same dimensions as the project, but it is perfectly acceptable to change them. (In fact, many people regularly make text medias larger than their project in order to get crisper text.)

Rob

[John Frank]

Hey rob,

I just tried what you said and when I changed the dimensions inside the media generator it ends up cutting off the letters here:

https://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02112009233300lw5.jpg

I also tried some other things, and I don’t think it’s possible to do this on one parent track, (inless you make all your text size really small and zoom in 🙁 )

I think even if I did manage to resize the “seen” to the proper size, it would still get cut off because the parent track is a square right, and it got moved to the side a bit then flipped, so it’s cutting off anything in childs tracks that try to go past that length

I guess I’ll need to find a some parents to babysit my other childs (wow that was lame lol) or I could go buy AE, I was looking at AE and wow it has alot more features involving 3D and animation then vegas does, if only vegas could implement a camera option for the 3D stuff, it would be perfect ;_;

[Rob Strobbe]

“I think even if I did manage to resize the “seen” to the proper size, it would still get cut off because the parent track is a square right”

Okay, so resize the parent track’s media if that you think is the problem. 😉

Really, if you’re using Vegas Pro 8, you might want to take a look at the new Protype Titler instead of the standard Text tool. The Protype Titler would allow you to do all of your words (and be able to move / rotate each word — each letter, in fact, if you want to) individually — all on a single track instead of several.

Also, for what it’s worth, I’m not entirely sure you need “cameras” in order to do what that tutorial does. Vegas’ 3D Track Motion would do just fine. (I think. I plan on going through that tutorial a couple times and seeing how close I can get using Vegas and the Protype Titler.)

Rob

[John Frank]

Hey, I actually figured out the problem before, but thanks for responding!

If I have all tracks on 3D motion I get full 3D space and can move anything anywhere, before if I had all on source alpha the child tracks would be cutting off… I did create my own typography (though it sucks! Went by too fast lol)

Another problem is that I can’t zoom in text in Vegas without them getting pixelated, I tried everything revolving around the text media generators in Vegas (I’m using 7.0 btw)

[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Change the resolution of the text to double your project resolution. If you’re already working with HD, take the text resolution to 2K x 2k. This may (likely) will change your text sizing/ratio, so be prepared to redo portions of your 3D title. But…doing so will likely fix the resolution problem.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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[John Frank]

I’m using the text media generator, I can only change the size within there and when I go any bigger then the frame it gets cut off err…

Also with the 3D space, it like takes a snapshot of whats there, so if I imported a 2000×2000 text from photoshop, and put it in the 3D space with it zoomed out it’d get pixelated when i zoomed in, or when its larger then frame it’ll get cut off…

[John Rofrano]

> Also with the 3D space, it like takes a snapshot of whats there, so if I imported a 2000×2000 text from photoshop, and put it in the 3D space with it zoomed out it’d get pixelated when i zoomed in…

This is a major different between Track Motion and Pan/Crop that must be understood if you are compositing. Track Motion resizes the media to the project size BEFORE it does anything to it. Pan/Crop resizes after. For example, if you have a DV project that is 720×480, Track Motion will resize a 2000×2000 image to 720×480 BEFORE it zooms in giving you a very pixelated image. Pan/Crop will zoom in first preserving the 2000×2000 image and then resize. You do not want to use Track Motion to zoom in… only out. It is mostly good for Picture in Picture work where you are making the image smaller.

~jr

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