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  • combining DVCPRO-HD and HDV in a project …

    Posted by Doug Dillaman on November 13, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    Hi all,

    I’ve been working on a DVCPRO-HD project, with about 100 hours of HVX and VariCam footage (720p50 and 720p60 respectively, both 25fps). FCP 6.0.1, MacPro. We’ve brought all the footage in at native resolution and are working with them in that resolution.

    I just found out that we have four additional tapes of HDV. (Unsure of the resolution – we’re getting a deck in four hours to digitize them.)

    I’ve never worked with HDV before. My understanding is that to work with it safely in FCP, you need to transcode it to an alternate format.

    In this situation, would the best solution be to transcode it to DVCPRO-HD? Or is there a better intermediate codec to transcode it to? My impulse is obviously to transcode it to DVCPRO-HD, just wondering if I’m going to run into troubles …

    Chris Borjis replied 18 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Benny G

    November 13, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    there is no problem working with HDV in FCP6. Just use easy setup to create an HDV sequence with the correct specs, and edit natively. Then after your cuts are made, use compressor and “advanced format conversion” to create a DVC PROHD clip directly out of FCP; or make a reference movie if you dont want to tie up FCP. Or if you dont like Compressor you could use various other 3rd party software. Thats what Id do

  • Chris Borjis

    November 13, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    HDV is ok if its not mixed with anything else.

    In this situation I would DIGITIZE it to DVCPRO-HD to ensure you have not one issue with it.

  • Doug Dillaman

    November 13, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    The timelines are DVCPRO-HD. Small amounts of HDV will be intercut.

    When you say DIGITIZE, do you mean that during the capture process save it as DVCPRO-HD? I was planning on digitizing as HDV and transcoding, but that would save a step, if it’s reliable.

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 13, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    [pseudokiwi]
    When you say DIGITIZE, do you mean that during the capture process save it as DVCPRO-HD? I was planning on digitizing as HDV and transcoding, but that would save a step, if it’s reliable.”

    We do this all the time with our Kona boards. We run our HDV decks through the Kona and set up to Capture in DVCPro HD. Works perfectly and I highly recommend this for mixing the HDV material into your DVCPro HD project.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Larry Sherwood

    November 13, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    Walter, do you use the component output to the Kona card?

    Thanx
    LS

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 13, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    [Larry Sherwood] “Walter, do you use the component output to the Kona card?”

    Component out of the deck and audio fed to an AJA HD10AVA converter which feeds and HD-SDI with embedded audio to our Kona 3’s.

    If you have a Kona LHe, then you can feed the component along with analog audio directly to that board.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Doug Dillaman

    November 14, 2007 at 12:06 am

    We have a Blackmagic card, not a Kona, but I assume the same principle should work … assuming the deck we’re borrowing has HD-SDI outs and not just firewire. I’ll find out soon.

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 14, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    [pseudokiwi] “We have a Blackmagic card, not a Kona, but I assume the same principle should work … assuming the deck we’re borrowing has HD-SDI outs and not just firewire. I’ll find out soon.”

    Not sure how well that card performs the downconvert. We don’t use them in our shop.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Chris Borjis

    November 14, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    The black magic cards do an excellent cross conversion to dvcpro-hd on capture.

    I have my dv deck going analog component + unbalanced audio, patched into a black magci multibridge extreme and capture HDV that way.

    Works very well.

    There is no reason to waste time capturing it as HDV then transcoding it in software.

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