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Color different on HDTV than when editing in Premiere…what gives?
I am working on a wedding DVD edited in Premiere Pro CS4 and burned with Encore. I had to do some color correcting to the footage (mainly to reduce the orange glow from tungsten lights) in Premiere. However, the final DVD, though it looks fine on my laptop, looks as if no color correction was done when played on a DVD player connected to my HDTV. Is there any way to color correct and ensure that it doesn’t look like crap when played back on someone else’s TV?
I’ve been scouring a few threads and the general consensus seems to be that every playback device will show colors differently, but in my case it’s just so extreme. Any tips on how to solve this problem (or at least, make it better) would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Jake Huddleston
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In order to do any reliable color correction you really need to monitor the HD-SDI output on a professional external monitor. Using your computer screen will never allow you to see what the true nature of the color is. Any other way is just a crap shoot unfortunately.
Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]In order to do any reliable color correction you really need to monitor the HD-SDI output on a professional external monitor. Using your computer screen will never allow you to see what the true nature of the color is. Any other way is just a crap shoot unfortunately.
Tom, I agree with you 100%, but do you have any suggestions for those who aren’t currently in the market (i.e. not enough money) for an SDI output card and monitor? Are there any suggestions for a cheap-ish (around $500 or so) monitor or ways to calibrate an already existing computer display to get somewhat close?
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Unfortunately,none that I am aware of. Sorry.
Tom Daigon
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Gary,
In the past I’ve been recommended the Matrox mini or Matrox MXO2. The mini sells for $500. You would use this as your I/O and hook up a professional monitor for accurate monitoring of your coloring. I’ve read that others will just use an Plasma HDTV for there monitor while hooked up via an I/O device. Hope this helps.
Cody Walters
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[Gary Huff] “Are there any suggestions for a cheap-ish (around $500 or so) monitor or ways to calibrate an already existing computer display to get somewhat close?”
Premiere Pro isn’t color-managed, so it’s very hard to trust your computer display. If you’d like to see them add color management, please join me in filing a feature request [link].
After Effects is color-managed, so if you have a decent monitor and calibrator to profile it (like you’d use for print), you should be able to get reasonably close.
When in doubt, though, I still trust my HD-SDI monitor.
Walter Soyka
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Yet another vote: you need an external monitor. AND, you need to learn how to set it up properly referenced to color bars. If you can’t afford a professional production monitor, even a small mass-market TV monitor will be better than your computer screen, IF properly set up to color bars.
This may help:https://www.videouniversity.com/articles/color-bars-and-how-to-use-em
-Jeff
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Color bars help you line up brightness, contrast, hue, and saturation, but they will not actually ensure the colors shown by your monitor are absolutely correct, nor will they help you ensure that brightness and gamma are correct.
Color bars are better than nothing, but they’re not a substitute for a calibration engineer’s probe.
Walter Soyka
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[Walter Soyka] “Color bars are better than nothing, but they’re not a substitute for a calibration engineer’s probe.”
Agreed. But they do get you a lot closer than “I guess that looks OK.”
Or using monitor “presets.”-jeff
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For anyone interested in a technical description of the lack of modern relevance of blue-only color bar adjustments, see Joseph Owen’s great post here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/223/22392
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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