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  • Color correction and external monitoring.

    Posted by Bret Williams on May 2, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    So in FCP 7 my internal grades were doing pretty good. I’m not doing anything amazing color grade wise, just color correction for the most part. But in 7 my external monitor looked like my computer monitor for the most part. And QT 7 looked the same as the canvas and the external monitor.

    But QT X and FCP X look the same, but they don’t look like my external. They’re a good bit flatter and less saturated. If I open up the clips in QT 7 on the same machine they match FCP 7 and my external.

    External is just consumer LCD at this point, but it matches my Sony PVM SD monitor pretty well. This isn’t mission critical, but a little disconcerting.

    FSI here I come? Well then $299 wasn’t that good of a deal… 🙂

    Is there a way to bring the iMac FCPX monitor more in line with, well, everything else.

    Bret Williams replied 14 years ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    External is powered by intensity extreme if it matters.

  • Oliver Peters

    May 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    If calibrated, the external monitoring is correct. Nothing on the desktop, your viewer or QT is ever guaranteed to be accurate. Have you calibrated your computer display? Which codecs?

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Eric Santiago

    May 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Ive done my Intensity Pro > Samsung UN22D5000 (22inch) calibration using Final Cut Pro’s color bars.
    I think mine is fine thru FCPX.
    Any tops Oliver on making that true?

  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Bars is ok for basic brightness, hue, saturation and contrast. I’m fine in that aspect. Blue only, etc. At least it was via my matrox and FCP 7. Still just HDMI out. But when you’re correcting, its all the in-betweens. Not to mention any floating white point issues. Or is that only plasmas? IOW, your LCD changes as the shots change. At least a consumer one does. So while bars might look great, the screen changes it’s profile as the shots change. Something about power, brightness, etc. Guy from FSI explained it to me the other night but it was over my head.

    I am planning on a 21.5 inch FSI.

  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Of course. But my canvas and QT 7 just happened to match my calibrated LCD in legacy. Still do. But in X and QT X it’s like there’s a whole different gamut going on. I’m using h264 on this project. Canon 5D MK III stuff. Works wonderfully not transcoding to pro res. It of course renders to 422. But they look the same.

  • Oliver Peters

    May 2, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    [Bret Williams] “But my canvas and QT 7 just happened to match my calibrated LCD in legacy.”

    You were just lucky 😉 I have found that QT X and QT 7 do not match each other on all codecs.

    But what is your display and how is it calibrated? Plus color temp and gamma setting? I’m found in general that the newest iMacs and the same vintage Apple displays (glossy) match pretty well, when comparing the FCP X viewer to the broadcast monitor output on a broadcast display. Older Apple matte LCDs (and other brand LCDs) don’t match as well.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bret Williams

    May 4, 2012 at 4:45 am

    It’s not the iMac or display. QT X and QT 7 have completely different gammas or something. QT 7 has a more natural saturation that more closely matches production monitors or home TVs.

    I run FCP 7 and FCP X on the same machine. Same clips look the same on external of course, but in FCP X/QT X, the clips are flatter, with less chroma on the iMac.

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