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Color correcting layers independantly
Suppose I have a picture in picture of two clips, one on V1 the other on V2 (with a 3D Warp effect). Now, If I enter CC mode and select only V1 in the timeline tracks, it will only color correct V1, which is fine. But if I select only V2 and then color correct it, the color correction will also affect V1, which is not what I want.
I would guess this is because the CC is applied after the 3D warp. But if I put the CC before the 3d Warp, it asks me to step into the effect in order to make changes. I want to be able to CC while the 3D warp is applied to my clip because I need to CC V2 against its background to make my life easier… how do you guys accomplish this?
This is on Media Composer Adrenaline.
Thanx
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Easy! Apply your color correct first, then the PIP. Or apply the PIP, step into the effect, and apply the CC. You have that part down. Now, to color correct and still see the PIP effect do the following:
1. Enter segment mode (red arrow).
2. Double click the clip that has the nested effect on it. This will expand the effects in the timeline. If your effected clip is on V2, you’ll now have V1, V2, and V2.1 and probably V2.2 and maybe V2.3.
3. Enter effect mode, select the color correction effect to activate it, and correct away. You are now effect CC while seeing the PIP effect.You could also enter Effects Mode, select the PIP effect, double click it, and it will expand the track that way.
By expanding the tracks like this you can see the composite result of all effects while tweaking/adjusting nested effects. I do it every day. Works a treat.
Mike.
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Thank you Mike, this trick will certainly come handy for me in the next few days.
Anna
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I tried exactly what you told me to do and it doesn’t work. When I try to modify something in the color corrector interface, it asks me to step in.
Do you use the the “Color Correction” effect or the “Color Effect”? I’m using the “color correction” effect which has its own interface and can only be tempered within the color correction mode. It doesn’t seem to matter if I select the CC effect layer (2.2), it still asks me to step in. If you have any idea what i’m doing wrong…
thanks for the help!
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It may not work with a color correction effect because of the interface issues. I’ll try to jump onto one of our new systems today (Mojo or Adrenaline) to see if I can get it to work. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Mike.
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Well, you can’t do it. I stand corrected.
I guess, because of the CC interface, it doesn’t recognize the media when you uncollapse an effect to nest a color correction, or if you already have a color correction nested it refuses to adjust it unless you step in to the effect. That does make it difficult to match color between shots when using something like a PIP. Sorry. Thought it could be done. I’ll post back if I find a suitable workaround.Mike.
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yeah, it does make color correction more diffult since you can’t even load a Reference image into the CC. If you do it, it doesn’t stay when you step in.
thanks for the calrification
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I posted your problem on the Avid forums (turns out I needed to do the same thing you did, and that’s when I found out it couldn’t be done). As best we could come up with as a workaround in that forum was to cut your video that’s intended for the PIP effect before or after the background video. Then, when you open your color corrector you can choose to view the previous or next edit in one of the three monitors. Gives you a bit of a reference. Make your color correction there, exit CC mode, place your color corrected clip over the background and apply the PIP effect, hoping for the best. Step in and out from there for final tweaks.
I’ll let you if I can come up with a better workaroud, but right now it doesn’t seem like there is one.
Mike.
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