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Color Controller options
I have been using a friend’s Davinci Control panels on the Resolve, and they are absolutely superb.
That being said, I would love to be able to utilize my JLCooper CX controller with the Resolve software as well. I find the JLCooper to be much more functional that the Tangent Wave, but both probably fall short with all of the deep menus on Resolve. I, like many others, are trying to find ways to run Resolve while keeping the ability to use Apple Color on the same MAC. -
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Under NAB they said they’re going to make JL Cooper support Resolve. It’s coming. But nobody knows when. BMD probably have an idea, but I understand it if they’re keeping the cards for themselves at the moment, as with the MC Color.. We just gotta sit tight and wait. Suddenly we wake up one day and have these great news served on a silver plate!
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I am also hoping for a MC-Color update for Resolve and I have sent several emails to Avid/Euphonix with no reply. Maybe a post on the CML is in order.
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMackbook Pro
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CML?
I’ve emailed Avid/Euphonix too. I remember just after NAB they answered happily, but now they’re all silent. If they cannot at least answer us, I’m thinking something along the lines of not doing business with them. What about support when I really need it? They should at least say “Sorry, we’re working on it but there’s no definite date yet”.
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Avid is stoopid sometimes they are almost like the government or something.
Hey we are avid and we bought this company which has a bunch of good products, let’s sit on them and have a bunch of meetings and then do nothing for a while.
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMackbook Pro
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OK
I can be a publicly sarcastic bastard. Sometimes this works and here is Avid’s response to my sarcastic flogging.
“Third parties can integrate MC Color themselves through an API that is
available upon request. For example, smoke, REDCINE-X, etc. have all done
the integration work themselves.”That was not so bad right? They could even have put that in an email or something.
They suggested that I use my sarcasm on BMD 😉
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMackbook Pro
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I have absolutely no doubt the DaVinci panels are superb, but, realisitically, aren’t they a bit overpriced?
Specially in this economy where is hard to sell even on eBay, we’re talking about a panel that costs more than an average car.
Could it really attract more clients to the point of paying itsel offf, and how much a price increase should you do if you offer that? -
I don’t believe that’s how BM is thinking. They are probably expecting very low numbers of sales for the big panels just like for the Linux version, and low numbers equal high prices in modern production.
The Mac version will be selling in high volume, and even the supported Wave is not yet very well supported. BM already promised to improve that, and the Mac port needs some final touches too, as we all know. So, the explanation might just be limited human resources.
We can, of course, make up conspiracy theories about Avid not supporting BM in MC5, so BM is not supporting the panels Avid bought…
Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts
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Avid’s response is pretty much the exact opposite of what BMD have said. BMD say that they release the resolve api and avid develops… so basically this implies nothing is happening…if this is the case, hopefully the BMD business model is based on selling software units and not their control surface…and we see some development soon. Not holding my breath…
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You would expect low number of sales if the item are high priced, not the other way around I believe, if Resolve for Mac would be $30K they will also expect low numbers of sales, now, why are the panels so high priced, that’s another story, inherited inventory probably? They have to come down at some point.
Regarding Avid, I don’t know why they haven’t realized yet that they need to open up to third party video cards, like a Kona or BM, however, I just discovered that Pro Tools does PCIe video out only through a BlackMagic card, go figure.
There’s a post where Grant complains why Smoke uses a Kona instead of BM, when at the same time Resolve doesn’t support Kona, they said it will eventually, now the rumors are don’t hold your breath, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Going back to the panels, if I have to choose between buying a Prius or the panels, I think I’ll go for the Prius and stick with the Wave.
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I think the $30K is pretty reasonable for the Resolve panels IMO a Blackboard for the Baselight is about $45K and the Tangent CP series panels are $20K+ depending on how many you get.
I run a set of DaVinci network panels in Telecine every day and if you have never used a system like that you may not know what you are missing but if you have you would never want to go back to the slog of using a mouse or tablet. even the three low end panels (Wave, MC, JL) are kind of slow poke in comparison.
I think a Resolve OSX system with Resolve panels is a great bargain compared to the other systems in it’s price/performance class. I know that the current panels are an all new design based on the Impresario panels (which were ethernet I believe) so the “old stock” idea is not correct. I think it comes down to the fact that Colorist work is a special niche and not something like Editorial and they are not going to sell 10K+ sets of panels maybe only hundreds.
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMackbook Pro
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