Cloud enthusiasts – something to think about.

[Sean Bates]

Actually, the cloud is a second choice. Previously, we were being “ramrodded” into paying for a perpetual license. Your speculation that Adobe will eliminate perpetual licenses is just that–speculation. As far as cable, electricity, etc… these things are essentially monopolies which is why they can dictate price with abandon. Adobe is one of several companies that start with A that are competing for our money. You do have recourse under the circumstances. Pick another A. But trust me, they will all break your heart at some point.

[Sean Bates]

“No loss of activation if payment stops.”

If you get to the point that you can’t afford $50 a month, you should probably consider another business. The good news is that they can’t take away your current license so whatever happens you’ll always be able to edit, albeit on dated software.

[Chris Harlan]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “like I say, if we enter bizarro world and adobe choose to nuke the licensing model covering 80% of their current customers – seriously everyone please read that aloud and consider how likely it sounds – but if they did make that zany leap, I will formally eat some part of a hat.
“

Of course, I agree with you completely, though I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that I said something similar before the release of FCPX in relation to choices that Apple would make about current customers. I found that a layer of chili and spicy mustard helped kill the taste of my hat’s poly/cotton blend as it went down.

[Walter Soyka]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “but if they did make that zany leap, I will formally eat some part of a hat.”

It’d be most poetic if it were not some part of just any hat, but some part of this hat [link] to which you have previously referred [link].

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

I feel Al Mooney is fond of that hat. It suits the man.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Chris Harlan] “I found that a layer of chili and spicy mustard helped kill the taste of my hat’s poly/cotton blend as it went down.”

indeed, indeed, indeed.

Still – I say the original response, made casually to tom daigon, was unprompted and accurate. then somebody pointed out internally that adobe can’t go releasing licensing details prior to product launch.

Corporations have accounting reasons for purchases across software and hardware, at scale. the idea that adobe would say, lets just set up a direct debit for you, what your account number? seems… pretty unlikely.

maybe they will, but its a massive adoption risk given the everest scale mountain of positive buzz around this product. Not to mention the insane level of effort from the various teams involved in this release.

I think baiscally they are pushing the living hell out of CC for very good reasons.
right now, if you asked an adobe representative about the situation in N.Korea, he would probably say – “that is an issue for creative cloud”

and that is totally fine like.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Chris Harlan]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “maybe they will, but its a massive adoption risk given the everest scale mountain of positive buzz around this product. Not to mention the insane level of effort from the various teams involved in this release.
“

That is my assessment as well. Even if they plan to have us all over there eventually, carrots are a better choice than an axe.

But, of course, there is always that interior unknown. Maybe somebody in power has the deeply-held belief that the C Cloud is the only true path for Adobe’s long term survival, but also believes, rather passionately, that C Cloud, due to heavy startup and operational costs, will collapse or implode unless it is quickly, massively funded. That could cause somebody to pick up an axe. Or at least cause an internal argument about axes.

But, no. My guess is that there will be an upgrade, possibly a bit more expense, and probably not with a path back to the beginning of time. Whatever happens though, I think its a bit rash to pre-bitch about something that doesn’t have any concrete hint of actually happening.

Of course this time of year, a couple of years ago, I was busily typing “No. We only got a preview. We haven’t seen the whole thing. They can’t do away with tracks. I’m sure we’ll all be please with what we get in June.”

[Tom Daigon]

I just wanted everyone to know that I feel like Ive stated my concerns and preferences for the future .I now know that folks are aware of possible choices they might want to consider.Im done.Its time to wait & see.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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[Aindreas Gallagher]

no harm raising it Tom. Thats what forums are for. You’ve raised concerns for a couple of days – I’ve been a headless chicken banging drums on FCPX for what feels like a lifetime.

Annnnd then sure CS7 appeared like a sunburst and well, all is good.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Tom Daigon]

Thanks Aindreas, I really appreciate that.

BTW, I really enjoyed watching your reel. Must be nice to have Nike as a client!

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid