Cloud enthusiasts – something to think about.

[Tom Daigon]

I agree. I have nothing but the highest respect for the Adobe folks. They do listen. They do seem to care. As a CMX/Avid MC/Avid DS/ FCP editor I am amazed and impressed with what they have done with the Production Bundle.

But when I see the potential for my choice to purchase the product in a manner that works for my business being taken away, I have to speak my mind. I dont apologize for having the courage of my convictions, as annoying as it might be to some folks.

But there is never a doubt how much I love using their software and interacting with their smart bunch of employees.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
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[Joseph W. bourke]

Why don’t you wait to ask them until they have an answer? This pushing and prodding and complaining is getting pretty tiring…why don’t you go edit something? :>)

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com

[Chris Harlan]

[Walter Soyka] “Hopefully we can all have a more informed conversation about this soon when Adobe announces pricing and availability.
“

I’m not quite sure I understand where this is all coming from. I heard one of the presenters state very clearly at NAB that there would be both options available going forward. Now, this wouldn’t be the first time I got misinformation from the floor–my fav was being told, a decade+ ago that Avid was quite definitely moving off of the Apple platform for good–but why, exactly is there so much speculation about perpetual licenses being discontinued? What’s the source of this? And why does anyone think there is merit to it?

[Tom Daigon]

Creative Cloud rental HEAVILY promoted. Perpetual License, not a word mentioned. Rationalization is that product has not been released so prices and terms also arent discussed.

Judge for yourself. Time will tell.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Chris Harlan]

[Tom Daigon] “Creative Cloud rental HEAVILY promoted. Perpetual License, not a word mentioned. Rationalization is that product has not been released so prices and terms also arent discussed.

Judge for yourself. Time will tell.
“

So that’s all? I’ll go with what I heard in the presentation.

And, I should add that, with all of the large IT department restrictions there are out there, I would find it crazy that Adobe would not provide a standard upgrade path. I think this is all quite overblown.

[Tom Daigon]

Fair enough.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
HP Z820 Dual 2687
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[Sean Bates]

Things you can get for $50/mo

Gym membership
Basic Cable
One round of golf
10 Starbucks Venti Mochas
3 movie tickets
2 decent bottles of wine
A steak dinner

or

Enough creative software to start your own media empire

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

[Tom Daigon]

I prefer to continue the upgrading I have done the last 13 years (at about $350) and get the next version of just the software I need which is the Production Bundle. Getting stuff I dont need doesnt sweeten the deal for me at all.

I also prefer to have the perpetual license where I can stop shelling out $50 bucks a month and use the software until I decided to upgrade again.If economic condition dictate cutting back, I still am able to edit. Not so with the cloud.

But then again I dont think leasing cars is a very smart thing to do either 😀

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Sean Bates]

Tom, with all due respect, you have about $20,000 of hardware listed in your signature and you’re primed to hit the panic button over being “forced” to pay $50 a month for software that, I’m guessing, accounts for at least 90% of your work. Seriously, how bad do economic conditions have to be that you can’t afford $50 a month for your primary software? Where I work, it takes significantly less than an hour of billable time to cover the Creative Cloud subscription, a fact that makes my boss giddy with delight considering what we’ve shelled out for high end Avid and Autodesk software (and maintenance plans) over the years.

[Tom Daigon]

Sean, I prefer not to be ramrodded into only one option- the cloud.

When I buy software I want it in the manner I buy it from all venders,which is perpetual use. Mocha, Syntheyes, Red Giant, Zaxwerks all give me the option to buy software in this manner. I pay once and use it forever.

As I have explained, buying into software that is analogous to a lease forces the user to accept any price changes the vendor makes.Lets look at the Cloud. They are offering it at 29.95 to entice folks to join. Then eventually the rates are 74.95 for monthly or 49.95 for a year contract.When they decide to jack the price a bit more, we have no recourse. Pay it or deactivate it.

Gee, what Corporate American companies do that. Have you seen your cable bill, natural gas bill, electric bill etc. recently?

With leased software I have no choice. If I stop, I dont edit. With perpetual software I have a choice. I prefer it that way 😀

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid