Cloud enthusiasts – something to think about.

[Richard Cardonna]

I belive that the clouds popularity is mostly from new users who what to try the apps without the big expense. kind of a paid tryout for a year.

The only way i would join the cloud is if i needed an extra license for a period of time.

However if adobe offered the chance of getting a perperual lic. at a reduced price after a period of paying the cloud, i would be more Icompelled to try it.

I agrer with tom.

Richard

[Aindreas Gallagher]

yes indeed.

everyone needs to take a chillpill – us having a mass religious whites of our eyes freak out on the PPro forum over something we know nothing about is not going to get anyone very far? surely?

Lets at least chill and enjoy the quality of the new feature set for a day or two before we start running around in circles barking at our tails again? then I can go back to antagonising the living hell out of the FCPX heads on the debate forum.

Franz Bieberkof made a really good point that currently, the cloud only accounts for 20% of adobe’s profts right? do you seriously think that adobe are going to try and strong arm 80% of their entire global client base onto bank direct debits? including large corporate customers for whom that might not at all be a goer for accounting and asset reasons?

So everyone follow my hand – place the valium tablet on the middle of your tongue, now swallow with a big glass of water. Great!
now make a cup of tea, grab a biscuit and lets watch all these lovely demos again:

look! lovely lumetri speedgade looks plopped on an adjustment layer!
https://vimeo.com/63247595

look at all that beautiful prores exporting like butter!
https://vimeo.com/62438789

ITS ALL GOING TO BE FINE. LISTEN TO MY VOICE. I SOUND LIKE SEAN CONNERY. YOU ARE VERY CALM NOW.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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[Tom Daigon]

I certainly hope you are right.But Ive learned never to assume anything.
And to be proactive when it can make a difference.

So before you start handing out tranquilizers heres a challenge.If you’re not correct, Ive got a hat right hear that Id be glad to watch you eat 😀

(American idiomatic phrase “If thats not true I’ll eat my hat”)

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Aindreas Gallagher]

tom – if they ditch the traditional licensing model, I will eat at least a portion of a hat and stick it up on youtube for proof. for reals.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Joseph W. bourke]

Here’s some other sound advice for all of us to think about as well – myself included:

Just because our voices reach around the world, doesn’t mean we know anything more than when they just reached to the end of the bar.

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com

[Tom Daigon]

Ha ha.I like you Andreas. You are a good sport :DD

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Greg Jones]

I’m using the cloud. In years past, I would always upgrade my production bundle software every year anyways, so at least this way I get to play with new software I normally wouldn’t play with. It doesn’t bother me that I don’t actually ‘own’ the software in perpetuity. I wont have much use for a CS6 License in 10 years when they are on CS20.

Greg Jones
D7,inc.
Orlando,FL.
https://www.d7-inc.com

Greg Jones
Orlando,Fl.
https://www.d7-inc.com

[Steve Martin]

OK – I have a slightly different take… Having been in this business for 25 years now (damn, I’m getting old!) I remember paying huge dollars for my first “real” editing platform, an A/B/C roll edit suite made up of JVC 622 S-VHS and Sony UVW BetaSP decks. Then I remember what a “savings” it was for my first NLE, a Media100-XR with a whopping 16G raid. The NLE system cost about $40k (about half the cost of an AVID system). With a useful life of about 3-4 years, my annual cost to edit was about $10k.

My CS6 system (which is obviously much more powerful) costs a fraction of what I paid for my M100 XR. And while hourly fees are generally lower now then they were in the 90s, the reality is that the expense of owning, maintaining an edit suite are much much lower now than they were then.

Now I’m sure everybody’s situation is different (different business models, markets, talent level, etc…) But for me, the cost of the editing software (while still relevant), is less of a factor that it ever has been.

But if Adobe makes the mistake of thinking that they’re the only game in town and can dictate to us professionals how things are gonna be, they’ll be in for the same rude awaking as the bitch-slapping that Apple just endured. There’s always someone else ready to fill the void created by arrogant stupidity.

Just my 2 cents…

Steve Martin
Omni Productions
Orlando, FL

Production is fun – but lets not forget: Nobody ever died on the video table!

[Mike Chambers]

Tom,

I am not sure where you are getting your pricing information, but you can always find the latest pricing on Creative Cloud at:

https://creative.adobe.com/plans

The standard price for a year of full creative cloud membership is $49.99 a month (not $59.95 as you listed). We don’t have any plans to change that.

There are also promotional prices, single app membership, and plans for larger organization (all listed on that page).

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

[Tom Daigon]

Well said Steve. Some of us are really suffering economically from the fiscal depression we have been in. I know of at least 4 post companies that went out of business here in Vegas. Every penny counts when business drops off.

All I want is a choice for perpetual software. If I had to pay a bit more for the ability to control its use, I would be OK with that.Some say my concern is premature. But given the writing on the Cloud wall, I think its wise to let Adobe know how we feel before CS Next hits the market.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid