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Cloud enthusiasts – something to think about.
Tom Daigon replied 13 years, 1 month ago 15 Members · 70 Replies
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Wilbert Thomas
April 11, 2013 at 2:35 pmVery true. They definitely are.
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Tom Daigon
April 11, 2013 at 2:39 pmThe current sale of perpetual licenses is how they have been selling CS since its inception. That is old policy. New policy is a hard push to get everyone of the Cloud. We will see what the fate of perpetual licensing is in the near future. I want them to know how many of thier customers feel to influence that decision.
BTW,$74.95 is here and now for the Cloud.
Kind of adds a little credibility to my “gloom and doom”. 😀
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Wilbert Thomas
April 11, 2013 at 2:41 pmOkay now that is something I didn’t know. Where did you get the screen shot? Is there a link you can point me to?
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Tom Daigon
April 11, 2013 at 2:49 pmHere you go.
https://creative.adobe.com/plans
Toggle the choice below $49.95
Needs Annual Commitment (49.95) to Cancel Anytime (74.95).
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Steve Connor
April 11, 2013 at 2:50 pmIt’s the price for a monthly license, the lower one is for a years commitment
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Walter Soyka
April 11, 2013 at 2:53 pmTom, I understand. I agree that Creative Cloud is not ideal for everyone. I may be a cloud enthusiast because I see it as a valuable option, but I’m not a cloud apologist. If cloud licensing became the only option going forward, I’d be just as disappointed as you.
But just because cloud licensing may not be right for everyone, that doesn’t mean it’s automatically wrong.
Cloud or not, I can’t realistically skip an upgrade anymore. In the last year, I’ve worked with various production companies and agencies using AE CS4 (ouch!), CS5, CS5.5, and CS6. I’d be at a competitive disadvantage if I didn’t keep up with the Joneses — especially if Adobe sticks to yearly major releases.
Price increases could happen on cloud plans, and they could happen on perpetual licenses. Either way, anyone in my situation will have to pay it as a cost of doing business.
For adding new licenses, going with the Cloud means I could skip the big upfront cost. There are additional benefits, too, like cross-platform licensing, storage, and earlier access to new features.
I also have multiple licenses to consider, and at least with the cloud, I know what my costs will be for the next year and could choose to pay only as needed.
As it stands, I know a good number of folks here who will pay more for coffee in a month than they will pay for their professional tools under Creative Cloud — even if the price goes up. And while I personally consider coffee a raw material for my businesses, I’m not sure that a daily Starbucks stop is tax deductible. I think the value proposition for Creative Suite is still pretty high, and a working pro could pay off the subscription cost inside their first hour of billing every month.
However, if Adobe makes licensing too expensive, competitors will rise, customers will leave, and Adobe would lose subscription fees and sales.
Ultimately, I do have faith that Adobe will not price themselves out of reach of creative pros — either on the cloud side or the perpetual license side.
Again, I’m not saying the cloud is right for everyone — but I think it’s also an error to say it’s wrong for everyone. There are pros and cons for both licensing models that people should be aware of as they consider their options.
Hopefully we can all have a more informed conversation about this soon when Adobe announces pricing and availability.
Walter Soyka
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Tom Daigon
April 11, 2013 at 3:01 pmI understand your POV completely.
I merely want to educate folks on what some pitfalls are and why other choices maybe better options for them.
And simultaneously let Adobe know the choices that many of us want to have as customers.
Then the ball is in their court.
Tom Daigon
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Steve Connor
April 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm[Walter Soyka] “Again, I’m not saying the cloud is right for everyone — but I think it’s also an error to say it’s wrong for everyone. There are pros and cons for both licensing models that people should be aware of as they consider their options. “
But surely the fact that a large amount of people only want one or two products in the suite means they couldn’t remove perpetual licenses? Unless they have a scaled subscription of course.
Steve Connor
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Walter Soyka
April 11, 2013 at 3:05 pm[Tom Daigon] “I merely want to educate folks on what some pitfalls are and why other choices maybe better options for them. And simultaneously let Adobe know the choices that many of us want to have as customers.”
I understand and agree — but I think there’s room in this discussion for the benefits of the cloud, too, which are being overlooked in the hysteria here over the past few days.
I see pros and cons on both sides.
Adobe should know we want the options so we can each decide what’s best for us.
Walter Soyka
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Tom Daigon
April 11, 2013 at 3:11 pmPeople are bombarded with marketing that extolls the virtue of the Cloud from Adobe.
It is only here that they get info on the downsides and what other good options might be.
I consider that balancing things out. 😀
Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
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HP Z820 Dual 2687
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