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Closed Captions not retaining colors when exported
Posted by Elli Morris on April 25, 2014 at 1:23 amI created closed captions (yes, not subtitles) in PP. My documentary has several speakers and VO, so I used different colors to distinguish speakers. Looks great in PP. When I exported – both with cc as embedded file and as a sidecar – the colors disappear. Except for one line of red in the 12 min doc. Any clues how I can keep all the formatting/color when exporting?
Elli Morris replied 7 years ago 5 Members · 11 Replies -
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Tim Kolb
April 25, 2014 at 2:55 amclosed captions aren’t titles with style attributes per say…
The text is displayed by the text generator in the viewing device or service (a given TV, QuickTime player, or YouTube for instance).
Most CC I’ve seen with multiple voices (often heard off-camera) take the speaker and have that in parenthesis or brackets prior to the designated text. I don’t think I’ve seen closed captions use color in any mainstream program…
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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Chris Borjis
April 25, 2014 at 4:09 pmI could be wrong but I thought colored captions only worked
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Tim Kolb
April 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm[Chris Borjis] “I could be wrong but I thought colored captions only worked
with HD content.”You could be right…maybe I just haven’t seen it.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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Elli Morris
April 25, 2014 at 10:11 pmSeems to me the colors should work since PP offers the ability to color code the cc text. And move it around so the cc doesn’t overlap any name badges or such. In the adobe tutorial, it shows editing the cc text with color and positioning, then just exporting it. No mention of HD or tricks to get the colors to appear.
I hope someone can offer me a solution. I have 3 or 4 speakers come and go so it’d be really nice to code their responses to keep up with each speaker. Rather than just the parenthesis that works within one clip.
If it were only good with HD, how would I change my export to adapt to that?
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Dennis Radeke
April 27, 2014 at 11:52 pmHi there,
Here is the help files on closed captioning. There is a lot of good information there. Remember closed captioning is there for the hearing impaired and has to be turned on in order to be viewed on a TV or broadcast. Our format support as well as a variety of helpful tips are there. If you’re doing english, I’d suggest CC1 and 608 subtitles, not 708. You also need to make sure that your source and program monitors are defaulting to the correct display (608 or 708). There are a number of areas where you can get mixed up so again the link is a good one to review. Hope this helps
Adobe Closed Caption Help Link
Dennis – Adobe guy
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Chris Borjis
April 28, 2014 at 4:27 pm[Dennis Radeke] “I’d suggest CC1 and 608 subtitles, not 708.”
what about HD sequences for broadcast Dennis, surely those should be 708?
And can you say if the next version of CC will support export of embedded captions
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Dennis Radeke
April 28, 2014 at 4:56 pm[Chris Borjis] “what about HD sequences for broadcast Dennis, surely those should be 708?”
Yes, that’s true – 708 is for HD. What most broadcasters do is take their 608 captions and embded them in 708. For Premiere Pro, you use either 608 or 708 captions and if 608, you can export them as a 708 caption file or embedded.
[Chris Borjis] “And can you say if the next version of CC will support export of embedded captions
in mpeg transport streams? (what extreme reach requires)”I simply cannot say. Sorry. As for embedded captions today, we support QT and certain MXF flavors.
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Chris Borjis
April 28, 2014 at 7:32 pm[Dennis Radeke] “if 608, you can export them as a 708 caption file or embedded.”
you can?? I didn’t see that in the help file. how do you export a 608 caption as 708?
that would be good to know.
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Elli Morris
May 14, 2014 at 3:43 pmIronically, the colored captions show up on YouTube and nowhere else! Well, maybe on a TV but I don’t now one of those. Thanks for the input, fellow PP people.
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Julian Breheny
March 28, 2019 at 12:09 amI know this is 5 years late, and may be irrelevant now. But I found this thread when trying to solve the same problem, then found my own solution.
The closed captioning didn’t work when I went through Media Encoder. But did work when I burnt in the captions exporting through Premier Pro.
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