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  • closed captioning from FCP to Avid

    Posted by Bradley Greenwell on July 6, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Hello,

    Iam currently in need of getting 13 shows closed captioned. I have heard many do’s and dont’s to this process. This is my plan.

    Send each show off to the caption house via email. Get back a “black movie file” in which i lay into my fcp time line. Export the show as an .MOV file? not sure if the cc will be attached to that file. Next I will give that file to a dub house and have them put it on a Sony HD cam.

    If that doesnt work, could I just send the dub house the .MOV file and the “black movie file” and have them put it together before output?

    Any suggestions would help.

    Bradley J.

    Bradley Greenwell replied 16 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chris Borjis

    July 6, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    both of your ideas would work…until you said they were mastering to HD Cam.

    HD doesn’t do cc on line 21.

  • Bradley Greenwell

    July 7, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Thanks for the response Chris.

    What would be another option for a mastered tape, that does have cc on line 21.

    Also, do you know of a inexpensive CC company, that does this kind of work flow?

    Bradley J.

  • Jason Livingston

    July 8, 2009 at 1:14 am

    Line 21 is part of the analog SD world and doesn’t apply to HD.

    Right now there are really only 2 options for HD captioning:

    1) If you have a Matrox MXO2, then many caption providers can generate a “Matrox 4VANC” file which is similar to a black movie, but works for both HD and SD (all formats). The caption company (using CPC’s MacCaption-HD software) can e-mail you a caption track, which drops right into your Final Cut Pro timeline with no rendering required. The MXO2 internally converts this track into HD and SD closed captions for output to tape. (If you had the MacCaption software, you could do it all in house. For 13 shows you would more than break even on the cost of the software.)

    2) If for some reason you can’t get or use a Matrox MXO2, then your only choice is to master to tape, mail the tape to a caption service company (one which has dual HDCAM decks), have them run it through a HD hardware encoder to a record deck (incurring generation loss), and mail a tape back to you. These systems are very expensive so the costs are very high.

    Jason Livingston
    CPC

  • Bradley Greenwell

    July 10, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Hi Jason,

    I hope I’m not to late in responding to your solutions.

    A few questions arise with these 2 solutions.

    I don’t have an HD Cam deck. If I had the MXO2 hardware installed and got the caption file, I’d still need a deck right? Or could that MXO2 file be converted through an Avid and then dumped to HD Cam tape. I’m asking this, because the station I work with has the HD Cam deck and Avid software.

    Is there a work flow to send out for captioning via email or ftp, get the file back, then lay into FCP, export a MOV file, ingest into an Avid, and then export to HD Cam having the captioning.

    Thanks Jason

    Bradley J.

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