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  • Clip’s transfer mode is lost during a Transition – BUG

    Posted by Mark Palmos on January 11, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Hello
    Ive seen this quite a bit in FCP, thought it was just 3rd party plugins causing the problem, but it happens with FCP and QT transitions too… and i’m wondering if its been reported (ad nauseum) by you guys…?

    Put one long video clip on V1
    Put several short clips on V2
    Place an FCP or Quicktime PUSH transition between each of the V2 clips
    Change the transfer mode to Screen (whatever)

    Result
    When the transition is taking place, the transfer mode is ignored, as soon as it is complete, the transfer mode kicks in – ugly!

    till later
    Mark.

    Rafael Amador replied 18 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    January 11, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Did you RENDER the effects at highest quality?

  • Steve Eisen

    January 11, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    This is not a bug. Only certain FCP and 3rd party transitions have a transparency during the transition.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Director-At-Large
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Mark Palmos

    January 11, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Hi
    IMO a professional video app like FCP should not have such a basic limitation, so I guess its time for a feature enhancement request.

    With some of the effects you can work around this limitation by putting the two clips in the transition on different tracks and applying the same effect to the “ends” of both clips, ie doing the transition to track filler. This works with the push effect, I have not tried others.

    It reminds me of the old days when hardware buffers could only take one alpha channel or something, like the matrox digisuite, you could not put one transition on top of another track with a transition.

    till later
    Mark.

  • David Bogie

    January 11, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    The only way I’ve gotten around this is to pre-render the stacked layers, reimport the movie, apply the transitions. Tedious but entirely workable since I had to do much more complicated hacks in my old Media 100 days.
    Or I go to Motion these days and rethink the whole thing.

    If you examine many of the effects and transitions, you see that most are simply useless for complex projects because they do not process transparency as expected. Been like that since v1. I don’t think it’s ever going to get fixed, as much as I agree it is a really flawed implementation of pixel processing.

    Personally, I’d much rather see all of the other broken junk in FCP corrected, fixed, engaged, and activated before Apple devotes energy to fixing effects. But that’s just me, I fully appreciate others’ lists of priorities are different.

    They’re wrong, of course, but I respect they’re differences. (joke, it’s a JOKE!)

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Rafael Amador

    January 11, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Think is not a bug. Nest the bunch on clips with the transition, then change the transfer mode.

  • Mark Palmos

    January 11, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “Think is not a bug. Nest the bunch on clips with the transition, then change the transfer mode.”

    Hi Rafael,
    Yes, that might work, i will try that next time, and it probably isnt what one would call a BUG but it should definitely not need to be sub-timelined to work, its just a software limitation which some other programmes do not suffer.

  • Mark Palmos

    January 11, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    [david bogie] “The only way I’ve gotten around this”

    Hi David

    Ive just tested two of the effects which did not work on my MacPro/Aja and they work fine, with alpha in the transfer mode during the course of the transition!

    So perhaps Aja has the limitation? I wonder. Please could you try it? Use Quicktime Push and FCP’s push equivalent too… both work on Macbook and not on macpro.

    Thanks
    mark.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    You are right Mark, is more like a limitation. Applying effects, transitions and changing transfer modes all together is to push FC a bit more than the necesary. In those cases nesting is a goog policy.
    Rafael

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