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Cinema Tools question URGENT!
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The original tapes from the sony f900 are DVCPRO HD are they not?
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The original tapes from the sony f900 are DVCPRO HD are they not? How do I get material into FCP with a DVCAM deck?
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In many markets, you could rent a DVCPRO HD deck for less than the cost of doing all the SD dubs (not to mention the extra time to deal with the added layers of complexity)
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F900…that is an HDCAM camera, not DVCPRO HD.
Your producers are approaching this in a very typical and old fashioned offline/online way…which will work. But there are better ways to approach it, which people are trying to explain here.
Shane
Littlefrog Post
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I apprieciate all your help. You’e right, the producers have done numerous movies with the same post facility. It’s going to be hard if not impossible to turn the boat around at this point. All I really want is to edit offline and provide and EDL back to the HD tapes….
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“The original tapes from the sony f900 are DVCPRO HD are they not?
Re: page 45 vol ll… If the post facilty is syncing up dailies why should I?”err, no, SonyF900 produces HDCam, a DCT-compressed 3:1:1 format. DVCPro HD is a Panasonic invention.
If the post facility is syncing up daiies, they are making money, not you, and maybe you are okay with that. HDCam/SR decks are available for rent. I should know.
No, this whole Betacam link-up is a throw-back to film dailies, but it is NOT rocket science, or, …. hmmm… seems pretty straightforward to me… oh, wait a minute, I AM a rocket scientist, or should have been…. 😉
All in all, dual-system audio is made out to be enormously complicated, blah, blah, blah, and it supports the notion that only the big post houses know what they’re doing… and milking a cash cow that most people can’t wrap their heads around… understand it, and you can make the process your b-yoch.
“I apprieciate all your help. You’e right, the producers have done numerous movies with the same post facility. It’s going to be hard if not impossible to turn the boat around at this point. All I really want is to edit offline and provide and EDL back to the HD tapes….”
Offline is the key part of the issue, and you just want to do somehting that was previously simple. Someone, however, has become fixated and is jeopardizing your success. Time for them to “ride to Antioch”… (St. Paul’s epiphany)… This is not film, it’s not Kansas anymore.
You are going to provide an EDL back to the Beta tapes, it looks like, unless you can get the HDCam code — which in this case is going to be buried doing the Beta selects. At this point, all I can suggest is make sure you get a source list describing the audio linkup. Thats’ probably the .FLX list — and you’re going to have to retrace back from the Beta to the HDCam.
When you could be using the HDCam original, but digitized to be more efficient than the SD uncompressed Beta… and not letter boxed either, I’ll bet. Maybe that’s an option…. a visual burn… good luck…
JPO
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I am familiar with this kind of workflow, but not your current situation. I would only be of assistance if I was there in person trying things out.
Sorry man.
Shane
Littlefrog Post
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The post house actually said I could make a “paper list EDL” when I’m finished editing, by reading the visual TC burn in… I was trying to avoid that, but at this point it seems like the only viable option.
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Thanks for your moral support! I’m in West LA if you’re interested in coming over and having a look. The post house is in Vancouver.
My problem remains getting the 3rd TC from the HD sources into my work flow. I noticed in FCP in the “Modify” menu there is an Timecode option, and in there you can add auxillary timecode. I’ve tried that, but you don’t seem to be able to generate an EDL with the aux TC – not sure why that would be…. -
The post house actually said I could make a “paper list EDL” when I’m finished editing, by reading the visual TC burn in…
How is this going to “save money”….? It’ll make a nice contribution to the post houses’ GM’s RRIF… because it will be added to the “online” time probably at book rate.
You know, you could conceivably modify the “clip” timecode of the captured footage to reflect the visual time code– so that the clip timecode was the HDcam source code, rather than the Beta dub code. Dangerous, back everything up. At least a “reconnect media” might be possible.
JPO
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