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  • Cinema Tools: Conform 1080i 29.97 to 720p24

    Posted by Alec Eagon on July 31, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Hey Guys,

    I have a clip that is XDCAM EX 1080i60 (30mb/s VBR) 29.97 fps (aspect ratio 1920×1080) that I need to conform to match a XDCAM EX 720p24 23.98 fps (aspect ratio 1280×720) timeline.

    I have been doing a bunch for research on Cinema Tools but have yet to figure out the best way to execute this process or whether this is even the best way to do this?

    Any help would be most appreciated.
    Thanks Guys!
    -alec

    Alec E.

    Macbook Pro 17″ / 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo / 2GB 667Mhz DDR2 SDRAM / 300 GB HD 5000RPM / OSX 10.5.8

    Editing with: FCP 6.0.6

    Working off of a Firwire800 500GB Glyph HD (I believe it is 7200RPM)

    Alec Eagon replied 15 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Rob Grauert

    July 31, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think Cinema tools down converts. You will have to do the 1080 > 720 conversion in Compressor, and compress to ProRes

    Bring that ProRes file into Cinemas Tools and you will see a “Conform” button at the bottom of the window. Simply click it and it will conform it to 23.98.

    Now, understand conforming 29.97 to 23.98 will give you a slight slo-mo effect. If you want 23.98, but want the video to remain in real-time, then that has to happen with Compressor as well.

    Rob Grauert, Jr.
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  • Alec Eagon

    July 31, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Thanks for the info and quick response Rob, now when I take the slow mo file back into compressor, what I do then is set the time frame to what it was at normal speed and have Compressor conform it back right???

    Also I am reading about programs such as Twixtor, FieldsKit, Nattress in this thread https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1000022 —that allow you to do all of this in FCP?

    Is using the de-interlacer in FCP a bad idea, should I invest in a deinterlacer if I want to bypass the compressor time issue?…

    Also I found this one —JES Deinterlacer— looks like its free. (https://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html#DEI)

    Thanks again!

    Alec E.

    Macbook Pro 17″ / 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo / 2GB 667Mhz DDR2 SDRAM / 300 GB HD 5000RPM / OSX 10.5.8

    Editing with: FCP 6.0.6

    Working off of a Firwire800 500GB Glyph HD (I believe it is 7200RPM)

  • Rob Grauert

    July 31, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    “now when I take the slow mo file back into compressor, what I do then is set the time frame to what it was at normal speed and have Compressor conform it back right??”

    no, if you DO NOT want your clip to be slo mo, then there is no need to bring it into CInema Tools to begin with. You can do the frame rate conversion and down conversion in one shot with Compressor.

    “Also I am reading about programs such as Twixtor, FieldsKit, Nattress in this thread https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1000022 —that allow you to do all of this in FCP?”

    Twixtor is used for speed changes – time remapping as they say. I’m not sure what those other plugins are for.

    “Is using the de-interlacer in FCP a bad idea, should I invest in a deinterlacer if I want to bypass the compressor time issue?…”

    Right, DO NOT use the deinterlace filter in FCP. All it does is toss out one of the fields. Compressor is the tool to use if you want to deinterlace (unless Kona cards can do it, i’m not sure)

    “Also I found this one —JES Deinterlacer— looks like its free. (https://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html#DEI)”

    I dunno. I never used it before

    Rob Grauert, Jr.
    http://www.robgrauert.com
    command-r.tumblr.com

  • Alec Eagon

    July 31, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    I’ll give old compressor a shot. Thanks a ton Rob!

    Alec E.

    Macbook Pro 17″ / 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo / 2GB 667Mhz DDR2 SDRAM / 300 GB HD 5000RPM / OSX 10.5.8

    Editing with: FCP 6.0.6

    Working off of a Firwire800 500GB Glyph HD (I believe it is 7200RPM)

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