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Chryon Duet — um, yeah, like I’ve ever seen one!
Ok, to anyone who can help with this, Thanks Much!
I’m working for a small company that has a satellite truck and while I was fine with the old CG system we had, they have bought a new(er) Chyron Duet for me to wrangle. And told me this today. And we go live with our first broadcast in, um, 2 weeks. I don’t know what I can use to create motion graphics for this beast, nor how to export them, etc. I’ve asked for information from several sites, including Chyron, but haven’t received the documentation yet (Why is that a State Secret anyway?) So I’m wondering if someone on here can help, point me in the right direction, or has a copy of that State Secret Documentation and could help me out?
As for what I have and know – Final Cut Studio, including FCP, Motion 2, Livetype; Adobe CS3 Photoshop and Illustrator; and I’m familiar with most every other graphics program available to Mac OS X.
Again, thanks for any help on this!
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https://forum.chyron.com/vbb/
Website for their forum which includes Duet. Chryon hasn’t had a great product since the 4100EXB, as limited as that was.
The name is so strong people buy the product which doesn’t match the quality of the name. Anyway, targa files or sequences with alpha channels are the best output from your systems. People who use them on the forum will be your best help. Good luck.Del
fire*, smoke*, photoshopCS3
Charlotte Public Television -
Thanks for the info!! I’ll check them out and see what I can find.
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I have worked with the Chyron off and on for many years. I haven’t had an opportunity to work with the Duet. Chyron is a very intimidating box, until you break through the skin and see how it is working, then you will grow to love it. It has been great for broadcast because of it’s speed. If you are a fast typist, you probably won’t do as well, I know that sounds strange, but the machine does things in a manner that fast typing is not an asset. The beauty is the ability to create format pages that all you do is fill in the fields with new graphics and the graphics come out correct color, size, positioning, etc.
If you have a facility nearby that has any of the chyron products that will show you the fundamentals, you will be able to squeeze by. The best way to actually learn the machine is the Chyron school.Charlie
ProductionKing Video Services
Unmarked Door Productions
Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
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Crap, I type 117 wpm most days, but sometimes fall to drinking and then I type faster but with more backspacing, which is why my pinky finger on my right hand is roughly the same diameter as the Washington Monument.
I’m concerned that the Duet, while *supposedly* already bought is not here and not available for me to play with means I’m going to be learning this thing live. But that leads to another question – what would anyone suggest instead of the duet? Is there a Mac-based solution that would work?
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If you are going to be doing a lot of live broadcast work, there really isn’t anything that compares to the Chyron at this time, due to the speed of updating graphics in a hurry. Keep in mind the Chyron starting with the Infinit! has been based on a platform compatible to MAC’s. I have seen attempts to work with many other systems and seems most everyone comes back to the Chyron, especially in sports invironments.
Charlie
ProductionKing Video Services
Unmarked Door Productions
Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
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Kevin –
You owe it to yourself (and your facility) to look at the Deko family of graphics machines. We’ve been a Deko facility since the first TypeDeko machines came out (late 90s). They are very intuitive, easy to use, and getting more powerful all the time. We can create graphics (CGs, type effects, and backgrounds – although we use Photoshop for our Paint, then bring it into Deko). It is very intuitive to use (unlike Inscriber, or the AVID type tool) and has a built in language that allows you to simply create templates and formatted graphics that can then be produced via ENPS or MOS (newsroom script and rundown software), or just typed into directly.The Deko family was developed by Pinnacle, but they were purchased a couple of years ago by AVID. Here’s the website:
https://www.avid.com/products/deko1000/index.asp
With a Deko1000, we are able to playback motion graphic templates on air, and then let our producers type in the CGs for lower thirds, full screens, etc.. It works like a charm, except that most of our News producers can’t spell. There are several versions of Deko, from free standing offline versions to full blown live playback engines.
Joe Bourke
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Well, now that Joe opened the door to Harvey Dubner, from whence the Deko is derived, I’ll open one to Pixel Power. We’ve had a 2 channel Clarity 2 HD which is on Windows 2000 in our HD studio control room since 2001. It will do animations and text manipulation as well as convert Chryon templates. The newer version – Clarity 5000 – is extremely fast and works with very few glitches or crashes. In our older version we have two independent channels and a preview/edit channel plus two queue channels visible. You can do two rolls or a roll and a crawl or whatever, as fast as you can get from one channel to the other (hotkey is the minus key on the keypad).
We looked at the Duet back at NAB in 1999 and it wasn’t working properly in their booth. It was glitching and wouldn’t pass video. But since the original poster has to use it, these observations may be moot. Best of luck.
Del
fire*, smoke*, photoshopCS3
Charlotte Public Television -
Well, here we are at, well, we missed a week. AUGH. However, we don’t have the chyron, and I don’t think it’s coming. The company that sold it to my boss didn’t bother to have one in stock, and, after reading the posts here, I’m thankful. I’m checking out the other ideas, and I really appreciate everyone’s insight. Please, if you have more suggestions, please please please let me know!
kev~!
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I’m late to the party here, but I’m curious to hear how it went
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Oh, you’re not that late, we just got the Chyron (thankfully we didn’t spend that much on it) and it’s arriving next week. I’ll let you know.
I’m not too worried about it, it’s not like it can’t be l’arned, right?
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