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  • Chop long clips into separate files without re-encoding

    Posted by Eric Nord on July 14, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    I have several long, unedited H.264 clips that I want to chop into smaller clips, but without re-encoding. I don’t want to lose any quality whatsoever (they are old, low-quality film transfers).

    I have the full Adobe Creative Suite and I’m willing to buy/use whatever program is best suited to the task. I use both Mac and Windows.

    I tried doing this in Premiere, but I don’t see a way to split the clips into separate files without re-encoding.

    I tried creating separate files from a longer clip in Prelude, but I couldn’t figure out how to do it (or if it’s possible).

    Any suggestions?

    Eric Nord replied 12 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    July 14, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Download FFMPEG and read the documentation for the commands -ss and -t as these are the seek and duration commands.

    An example command line would be something similar to:

    ffmpeg.exe -r:0 29.97 -i input.mov -codec:v copy -codec:a copy -ss 3 -t 10 split_output.mov

    The -r tag forces the framerate for the input file which FFMPEG can sometimes read incorrectly during splitting. The -codec:v copy and -codec:a copy means that I want to copy the video and audio without recompressing. -ss seeks in 3 seconds (this can be fine tuned, read documentation) and -t sets duration.

    Should work fine. You may find that the first or last frame are black, but that’s the worst of things since most h.264 files are interframe.

    A note for Premiere users: You may have to rename .mov files to .mp4 to dodge Quicktime processing, otherwise the file may not import for additional editing….. generally not good to split interframe codecs.

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  • Eric Nord

    July 14, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Thanks, Angelo. That would definitely work. I’ve been using FFMPEG indirectly through various RAW conversion utilities.

    I’m hoping there is an app that can give me both the ability to scrub and find in/out points, as well as doing the splitting. As a bonus, it would be nice to do it batch-style. But obviously I’m at the mercy of the software that’s available.

  • Angelo Lorenzo

    July 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    You could try XMedia Recode (for Windows) which appears to be a front end for FFMPEG that has a preview area to set in and out. The interface is not beginner friendly but if you have experience with FFMPEG then the options presented will make sense.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xmedia-recode.de%2Findex.html (site is in German, program installs in English)

    In and Out marks are noted in text boxes under preview timeline, you won’t see markers.

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    Angelo Lorenzo

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    Introducing ProRes Helper, an awesome little app that makes it possible
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    RED transcoding, on-set DIT, and RED Epic rental services
    Fallen Empire – The Blog
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  • Eric Nord

    July 16, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    That worked! Thanks for the heads-up. XMedia Recode is a great tool. Tons of options.

    I pick the input file type, set the video mode to “copy”… and it dupes without converting. Perfect! There’s no batch processing (but I’m making small clips, so it’s not a big deal).

    Great find!

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