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China? Yeah, China for gods sake.
Eric Santiago replied 10 years, 11 months ago 19 Members · 45 Replies
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Bill Davis
June 17, 2015 at 2:59 amVeneration is lovely – right up until they they announce that they are going to visit their grandkids and park the Winnebago at your house…for the entire summer. Just sayin.
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Bill Davis
June 17, 2015 at 3:07 amCounter question: how come the people who love X are so often people like this with loads of other NLE experience who’ve stuck with their X “aculturalization” until the imaginary “click” happens – and all the people still poo-poohing it loudly are pretty much people who’ve never gone much farther than the kicking the tires stage?
To quote NBC: The More You Know…
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Tony West
June 17, 2015 at 4:06 am[Andrew Kimery] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “other third sound like they’ve drank something.”
To be fair Aindreas, many time you sound like you drank something too. 😉
“hahahaha
I had great time in LA Andrew, will have to try to catch up next time.
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Scott Cumbo
June 17, 2015 at 4:19 amThe more you know spots were cut on avid… Just saying.
Bill, I’m curious as to why you feel the need to promote FCPX so hard? Why does it matter if people think it’s the greatest thing on earth, or a kids toy? I’m really just curious, not setting a trap or making fun of anyone.
For the record, I’ll cut on any system, as long as they are paying my rate. To me it doesn’t matter, they are paying for me, not the tool.Scott Cumbo
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Paul Neumann
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Charlie Austin
June 17, 2015 at 6:25 am[Paul Neumann] “”Everybody here uses Adobe.”
“what’s your point? You could have done he same thing in X.
FD, just updated Pr mid-job. oops. Some interesting new audio playback, uh… issues.
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Bill Davis
June 17, 2015 at 6:52 amScott,
It’s quite simple, really. I sat in the audience as X was released at NAB 2011. I saw a bunch of interesting ideas I’d never considered before in my 12 plus years as an editor. I heard a LOT of applause and cheering that night. Then I went on-line the next few days and watched as most of the so-called “professionals” gleefully savaged it as stupid and dumb and worthy only of scorn. Understand this is 3 months BEFORE anyone outside of an apple lab had spent even a minute using it! Then in July, I downloaded it along with everyone else. And was deeply bummed to learn that my MacPro didn’t have an Open CL capable card so I couldn’t install it! On a lark, I tried it on my Laptop with more success. Started exploring it and like most editors, did NOT have an easy time of it. But I remembered the conceptual stuff that I’d seen at NAB and was excited by, so I kept going through the frustration. Then I slowly started to “get it” – the database reminded me vaguely of my beloved FileMaker Pro. After I figured out the basics of tagging, I started to realize that I could pre-edit in the event browser – and leverage those decisions to speed up my work. I was having SUCCESS with it. I was beating my deadlines. Getting more work done than before. And editing was more enjoyable and more fun. But everywhere I went on the boards in those first two or three years, all I read was how useless and lame it was. This huge wail about how Apple had ruined FCP and turned their back on pro editing. But day after day I was finding more and more I was liking. Multicam arrived and Totally Rocked! I got smarter and smarter with the database stuff. I was turning out DSLR work that looked gorgeous – with solid blacks and controllable depth of field and gracious skin tones. And then I realized that the guys bashing it the most often didn’t actually USE it! So really from day one, I heard hundreds of guys bloviating about what crap it was – but precious few voices that actually used the damn program at a level of any expertise and I felt compelled early to set the record a bit straighter. Honestly the motivation was twofold for me. The selfish part is that I like to write and I enjoy mixing it up in debate. I find that fun. But there’s an altruistic part too. The program was working really, really well for me. It was making my work easier. But I also knew there were other editors who would have the same experience I’d had if they just didn’t get scared off by the crap the haters kept spewing. Look, if I was an auto mechanic and stumbled into a tool that cut half the time and effort out of dropping a transmission – but didn’t tell the other guys in my shop, I’d be a dick. To my thinking, finding a tool that works really well for you, and not spreading the word makes one selfish, and I don’t want to be that. That’s pretty much the story. FWIW
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 17, 2015 at 10:28 am[Andrew Kimery] “To be fair Aindreas, many time you sound like you drank something too. ;)”
that line can be overdone you know…
seriously though – try a thought experiment – so an avid editor starts using Premiere Pro:
one day it just clicked. I loved the lack of rules. Favouriting is the best thing on the planet! I could bash out a slick edit at least twice as fast!”
I edit in the zone! pumped and energized and Premiere Pro allows me to mix and cut as fast as my brain goes.
you ever hear an avid editor talk like that? Premiere Pro editor? Any editor?
I mean, who in God’s name talks like that?
Ah yes that’s right – the unhinged little posse of FCPX devotees making slick edits two times faster than their grandparents on rad rad rad FCPX.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Mitch Ives
June 17, 2015 at 2:22 pmDid they mention if they were using pirated copies?
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Scott Cumbo
June 18, 2015 at 2:14 amBill,
Thanks for the reply and fair enough answer. I don’t post much, but stop by every now and then just to browse and always see you in the middle of these things. To be honest I’ve never touched FCPX, just no demand for it in my little editing world.Scott Cumbo
Lead Editor
Bellator MMA/Spike TV
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