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  • Cheap suites

    Posted by Arthur Puig on April 18, 2011 at 5:42 am

    Just talked to someone in a semi-big post house, where they’re planning to build a few color bays based on Resolve, as a “cheap” alternative.

    What they fail to realize, is that that “cheap” alternative, far exceeds the performance of their “expensive” suite.

    Oh well…

    Arthur Puig replied 15 years ago 9 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Jake Blackstone

    April 18, 2011 at 5:51 am

    What expensive suites and what performance capabilities are you speaking of?
    If you’re speaking of “cheap alternative” to a Lustre, Baselight, FilmMaster, Pablo or Mistika suites, then you’re dead wrong…

  • Margus Voll

    April 18, 2011 at 7:02 am

    Why is that ?

    If you have linux version it is fast as hell doing all 3d etc 4k.

    Even on mac you can add expansion box and lets say 2 to 4 gpus what makes this
    “cheap” system really fast. Specially when you add full BM grading board.

    It is like with fcp it used to be. You could do all you needed but the technology just cost less.
    More room for creative work less for financial worry’s.

    Margus

    https://iconstudios.eu

  • Arthur Puig

    April 18, 2011 at 8:47 am

    I can tell you for sure it is way better than a Pablo, Pablo renders, even on one cascade, it converts R3D to DPX, killing all metadata on ingest.

  • Robert Houllahan

    April 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Having used and demoed the other mentioned suites (Except Mistika) I don’t really see anything I cannot do on Resolve compared to other grading systems. Was (is) not Resolve on Linux with a stack of GPU’s and fast disk I/O a “Bespoke” solution and is it not currently one of the most widely used DI systems for features in facilities like Comapny-3?

    So a OSX based Resolve with the Resolve panel and multiple GPU’s plus fast storage is the same software and interface and V8.0 of Resolve adds much functionality and features but it is the same software as the $100K (now) Linux machine.

    So I don’t really see how it is any less “powerful” than other grading solutions.

    This may be disruptive (economically) but I would like to see actual point by point feature by feature and performance figures that clearly define that Resolve is in any way inadequate.

    -Rob-

    Robert Houllahan
    Director / Colorist
    Cinelab Inc.
    http://www.cinelab.com

    MAHC-PRO 6-Core 3X GTX285 20Tb SAS Wave Panel Panny 11UK SDI Plasma.

  • Rick Turners

    April 18, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    I think the point he may be trying to make is that now clients will see DaVinci Resolve based grading facilities as cheap alternatives to the big iron/talented places.

    It is BMDs responsibility to remind people that many of the biggest/most successful/blockbuster films in the world are graded on Resolve. As long as this message rings clear throughout the industry I believe everyone will stop whining and get back to worrying about the quality of work, not gear snobbery.

    I think we just need to look at Editorial to see where things are going. I believe Walter Murch cuts at home on FCP primarily?

  • Jake Blackstone

    April 19, 2011 at 12:02 am

    No, that is not what i meant. The point is, that prosumer users only look at the speed of the system, while forgetting, that color grading is NOT a video game. Dearth of creative tools in Resolve is the biggest limiting factor in it’s present form. Anyone, who had used any other of before mentioned systems would know that:-)

  • Jake Blackstone

    April 19, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Somehow I have my doubts. If you had used or demoed something like Baselight or FilmMaster, then you should know how those systems differ from Resolve:-)
    Resolve 8 is a step in the right direction, but it still has a way to go, before professional colorists would speak about it in the same breath as they speak of other high end systems. Sorry…

  • Rick Turners

    April 19, 2011 at 12:54 am

    From my understanding, Company 3, Technicolor and EFilm utilize Resolve to grade the highest grossing films in the world.
    I would say that those colorists are at the highest end possible.

    What tools are Resolve lacking that Filmmaster and Baselight have?

  • Sean Kapleton

    April 19, 2011 at 6:53 am

    “What tools are Resolve lacking that Filmmaster and Baselight have?”

    I also am interested to get an answer to this in depth.

  • Sascha Haber

    April 19, 2011 at 8:04 am

    The list is long and wide.
    Stating with multi layer multi version time-lines.
    Dust busting and restoration tools, OFX plug-in support and a lot of other nifty things you need for a one man show.
    And I think that’s the beauty of Resolve and also its shortcoming.
    Its probably the fastest grading system with the best possible control panel support, tracker and animation tool-set.
    So, if you have a guy that is preparing the data for you and does the stitching afterward, all if fine.
    But today, a client ask for speed effects, de- and re-graining, some glow or light streaks, a picture overlay and a Logo in the end.
    And all of that, I have to do outside of Resolve.
    Planing is crucial , but the time is not there anymore.
    Things like Baselight for FCP will be the future.
    Cheap and easy to use tools for the laymen.
    At least for 98% of the jobs.

    A slice of color…

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