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Cheap raid solutions for HD work
Posted by Anders Haavie on May 27, 2006 at 5:51 pmA friend of mine needs to edit some HD stuff. He need some cheap raid solutions…. He is mostly working on non critical stuff and small projects that lasts only a couple of weeks, so he doesn’t need expensive harddrives that are built to last..
Any ideas ??
Anders
Gary Adcock replied 19 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies -
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Anders Haavie
May 27, 2006 at 5:57 pmooops.. Forgot to say that his work is mostly on concerts, and I guess he will be having maybe 10 hours of hd material in any project (5 iso cameras running all the time.. Working with multicam)
Anders
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Drizzt_g
May 27, 2006 at 7:18 pmCheap Raid for HD. If you find one, tell us. The only way you can save money is if you build a raid from scratch.
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Anders Haavie
May 27, 2006 at 7:57 pmCame across this link in this forum
https://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=2490
Maybe this one is ok for my HD work.. looks like it can handle 7 real time streams of 8bit uncompressed…so I guess my dream of having 5 HD streams will not work under any circumstances.
Anders
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Ben Holmes
May 27, 2006 at 8:40 pmWorking with HDCAM? 10 hours storage will require a 2-3TB array. Not cheap. Working in HDVCPro will only need a few hunded gig and you could use a firewire 800 drive.
If you need to work in uncompressed 10-bit HD, you need dual-scsi or fibre-channel. Forget about 5 streams, you MIGHT manage 2 – unless, again, you work in HDVCPro (which looks suprisingly good).
For a FC or SCSI solution, go to Medea, Huge or Atto. Probably be looking at around $2500-$3500. There really are no shortcuts, faster drives cost money, and hardware raid systems are faster and more reliable IMHO. Or $500 for a g-raid using fw800 and (you guessed it) HDVCPro. If you’re doing a 5 camera HD Cam shoot, I would suggest that a few thousand dollars on a reliable disk array is money well spent…
Ben
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Anders Haavie
May 27, 2006 at 8:50 pmThis will be national broadcast stuff, and I think they only have HDCam. I guess editing in offline will be the solution, and then doing online after the editing. .. Oh well, I guess it will only take another 5 years before edititing HD will be piece of cake
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Michael Sacci
May 27, 2006 at 9:37 pmI’m editing 8 concerts shot with (6) HDCAM and I’m editing with multicam with the footage captured as DVCProHD. I built my own Raid system with SATAII drives and cards. Sonnet Fusion 400 enclosure with (4) 300 GB drives and I just swap out drive sets when one is close to 70% full. I get 250Mb/s read speed and have no problem pulling the 6 streams. Of course you put 500 or 750 drives if you need more capacity at a time.
If I wanted to I could recapture the show in HDCAM while picture was locked as Uncompressed HD and everything would work fine.
NOTE: 2hrs of 10 Bit HD would be about 1.2 GB.
So it is all doable, for about $1500 you can make it work.
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Andy Edwards
May 28, 2006 at 3:41 am[sacci] “NOTE: 2hrs of 10 Bit HD would be about 1.2 GB.”
Do you mean 1.2TerraBytes? And is that DVCPRO HD? Just wondering
Andy
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Gary Adcock
May 28, 2006 at 2:06 pm[Andy Edwards] “[sacci] “NOTE: 2hrs of 10 Bit HD would be about 1.2 GB.”
Do you mean 1.2TerraBytes? And is that DVCPRO HD? Just wondering”
1080i 29.97 10bit + 4 tracks of audio is 3 Terrabytes Per Hour
1080i 29.97 DVCPROHD + 4 tracks of audio is 53 Gigabytes Per Hour
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