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  • Changing sequence settings in final cut after edit is done.

    Posted by Jack Kemp on June 15, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Hey guys,

    Now i have searched high and low for help on this but no one seems to be able to help. I hope you guys can.
    My problem is this:
    I have been assisting a director edit his work. Its a 90 minute feature film shot on RED 4K at 24 FPS. I have setup the sequence presets and everything to work with the RED proxys for a 2K reconform in the finishing stage of editing.
    Now I will admit I am not a high up editor, actually i rarely edit…just helping out where i can… so i am struggling abit with figuring this out myself. Anyway I had setup the sequences to editing in the Native RED proxys setup. However the Director gave me a heap of footage he had edited in a DV PAL 25p sequence. Now I have worked out away to reconform his stuff to PRORESS 422 (HQ) 25p…. however I need it to be PRORESS 422 (HQ) 24p. But when I try to swap it over FCP re edits my work but cutting clips in half and spaces in between and throws audio out of sync. Any idea on the steps I need to take to fix this mistake.

    Just to give you a heads up on what I am dealing with when i asked why he chose those setting he just said…. “I dunno, I just opened up the clips in FCP and started editing… that all i need to do right?”…. he has been using FCP since FCP studio 1. *slaps hand on forehead*

    Thanks guys I appreciate it.

    Jack Kemp replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Pale

    June 15, 2011 at 12:34 am

    [Jack Kemp] “Now I will admit I am not a high up editor, actually i rarely edit…”

    You guys are working on a 4K RED project….don’t you think, at some point, you might want to have someone who does this for a living on this job…if only for a day…

    Your director already made a big mistake. You need someone to guide both of you on finishing this before you make make bigger ones.

  • Jack Kemp

    June 15, 2011 at 1:13 am

    Oh believe me I have told him this already.

    I have edited my own commercials and music videos on RED before, but where I stuffed up was not asking if the director knew what he was doing.

    Anyway what’s done is done… just need to move forward or i will get bogged down with the negatives. Do you happen to have any suggestions on how i could fix this?

    Kind Regards,

  • Pradip Patil

    June 15, 2011 at 3:05 am

    When you say he gave you footage in DV PAL 25, is it the exported quicktime file or just sequences from the project itself?

    Pradip Patil
    Mumbai,India

  • Jack Kemp

    June 15, 2011 at 4:14 am

    The sequence settings he gave me are DV pal CCIR 601 (5:4) 720×576.

  • Pradip Patil

    June 15, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Has he directly edited RED proxy files in the DV PAL CCIR 601 (5:4) 720×576 sequence?
    Then you can simply copy these files in a new sequence with proper settings.

    Do you have access to these sequences with RED files or do you only have the exported movs?

    Pradip Patil
    Mumbai,India

  • Jack Kemp

    June 19, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Hey mate, sorry about the delay in reply to this. was away over the weekend with work and didnt get a chance to get back to this.

    Yeah basically didnt check his sequence settings or something but he has grabbed the REDproxies and imported them to final cut and obviously hasnt clicked yes to the dialogue box where it says “do you wish to change sequence settings to match clip settings” (or close enough to what it says)

    Anyway he has started editing the RED proxies in the DV pal setting yes.

    However, I tried doing what you said to do but when i copy and past it, the audio goes out of sync and the cuts are spaced out and weird.

    I assumed this would happen because the footage and the correct sequence setting are ment to 24 FPS but his sequence is 25FPS?

    Have any futher idea why FCP is being a jerk? hhaha

    Anyway thank you for your help.

    Kind Regards,

  • Jack Kemp

    June 20, 2011 at 3:14 am

    Ok so i have tried to copy and paste footage into the timeline but it goes out of Sync with audio and the edits dont match up.

    I have tried reconforming the footage to match sequence and what not but still no go.

    Can i export an edl or XML or something than re-import it back into FCP on the correct timeline?

    Getting stressed cause nothing seems to work. I have so many friends telling me you can easily do it in AVID and Premiere but for some reason FCP will not work.

    Thinking of making the switch soon.

    Kind Regards guys

  • Jack Kemp

    June 20, 2011 at 5:15 am

    Ok so guys,

    So far i have everything to were it should be except for the frame rate issue or timecode in the sequence,

    Its ment to be 24p but all the stuff i changed from the director is still 25p… now keep in the mind the footage itself is still 24p but the sequence’s edited by the director are still set to 25p.

    Everytime i try to copy and paste them back into the correct timeline of 24p they go out of sync with the audio and in some places the edits have changed and there are caps where there shouldnt be… basically its all over the place.

    I am sorry for all the drama and chaos this seems like but imagine yourself in my shoes. I know there has to be a easy way to fix this.

    Technically i should just be able to copy and past all the footage into 1 timeline and it should all be sweet but for some stupid reason the jerks at apple decided to make shit complicated.

    All i need to know is how to copy 24p footage edited on a 25p timeline back into a 24p sequence without messing with my edit.

    is it possible? if so how. if not what can i do?

    Thanks for all your help guys. you rock!

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