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  • Changing Field in Viewer and Canvas

    Posted by Jimmy Spangler on May 22, 2008 at 12:05 am

    The Viewer Windows and the Canvas both only show the 2nd or Upper Field on interlaced material. Is there a way to change this so that they show the Lower (even) field.

    This is a problem because when people cut from a feature master on Digi (or some other 30 frame medium) that has been downconverted from a 24 frame master, you will sometimes make a cut on a frame with pulldown. Therefore, when you only see the upper field you may think you are starting your edit on a clean frame, but you are actually cutting the second field from the last shot into the frame thus making a flash field.

    So, is there any way that you can change which field is displayed in the Viewers and Canvas? You can obviously change the field dominance of the source, but that would not solve this problem.

    A solution to this would be very beneficial because in our business we cut feature masters that have 3:2 pulldown and we would like to eliminate these mistakes.

    Thanks

    Jimmy Spangler replied 18 years ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Andy Mees

    May 22, 2008 at 12:49 am

    I may be mistaken, but I always assumed the field displayed in the canvas was dependent on the field dominance setting of the sequence.

    If thats the case then you might set the field dominance of your canvas to Lower as an interim measure, of course remembering to reset to Upper before final re-render and output

    Failing that, if you set your Canvas to 100% you can see both fields and so should be able to spot where the interleaving is showing separate images

    Another workaround would be to apply a de-interlace filter to the clips (selecting Lower field) … and again you’d have to remember to remove it after the fact

    For what its worth, being able to jog by field has been a much asked for feature request for a long long time, so PLEASE add your own voice officially by visiting Apples Feedback page and politely requesting it. Many hands make light work.

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

  • Jimmy Spangler

    May 22, 2008 at 4:37 am

    I have not tried to experiment with making the canvas display at 100%, but the field dominance is a non factor. After all I am working with SD NTSC footage that is Lower Field Dominant and it is displaying the Upper Field. I even experimented and changed it but that had no effect.

    We could add a de-interlace filter, but that may be too much trouble. I think I will add some feedback. There is no reason to show the upper field when 1. it is not the dominant field, and 2. Avid does displays the lower field.

    Sometimes I feel like there is no reason FCP does certain things.

    Thanks

  • Andy Mees

    May 22, 2008 at 7:51 am

    just did a test here and I’m seeing the same as you …

    regardless of the field dominance settings of the sequence the canvas always displays the upper field only when the playhead is parked.

    bizarrely, even if the clip has the De-interlace filter applied, and set to remove the upper field, it still shows the upper field when the playhead is parked (although it will correctly display lower field only during playback)

    with the canvas at 100% you can see both interleaved fields when the playhead is parked or during playback.

    >I think I will add some feedback. There is no reason to show the upper field when 1. it is not the dominant field, and 2. Avid does displays the lower field.

    On reason 1. I would have to agree, the field displayed in the canvas when parked or during playback should default to the dominant field as specified in the sequence settings … for reason 2. I would have to disagree inasmuch as whether Avid performs a function in a certain manner or not should have no bearing on how FCP should work.

    >Sometimes I feel like there is no reason FCP does certain things.

    Ah yes .. we’ve all been there :/

  • Jimmy Spangler

    May 22, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    About my reason #2 comparing to Avid: I know it is not a good argument to say that FCP should do it the way Avid does, but it seems like they did the opposite just to be different than Avid. Perhaps I am wrong, but it just doesn’t make sense to show the Upper Field instead of the Lower.

    I wish there was a way to change that.

    Thanks for the help.

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