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changing clip speed moves other clips
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[jon smitherton] “Final Cut Server is on the way JUST for this. “
Actually, no, it is not. Final Cut Server is meant for other reasons, not media management within a FCP project. The LOADER app that you pointed to is the elegant solution to the issue you describe.
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Yes I realise that FCSvr is used for all other reasons…
but I thought that you dragged a clip into FCSvr and it would copy it into it’s own file structure.
from apple.com:
Drag-and-drop uploads
Drag a file or files from the Finder, the desktop, or a connected volume to the Assets pane. Drag an asset directly into a Production to add it to the catalog and the Production at the same time. Or use the Upload window to choose files to add to the catalog. Final Cut Server performs the remaining cataloging steps automatically. When you bring in a Final Cut Pro project, Final Cut Server catalogs all the referenced assets, skipping those that already exist in the catalog.
I would of thought this would be logical, as say a clip it needs (for compression etc) is on the desktop of a local machine, it would slow the machine down?
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[Shane Ross] “I would not like the NLE to make assumptions for me.”
DITTO HERE – as I said I don’t want the NLE to assume I want to ripple an entire timeline just for one speed change.
I do a lot of online mastering of projects edited by others; basically cleaning up edits, grading and prep for audio post. Sometimes I will add a little magic myself where needed and occasionally do a speed change; BUT I can not alter the duration of the whole show so it is a real dellima to me.
Another thing I have to do with these jobs is FIX other peoples speed settings. Often they will place a clip onto the timeline and cut halfway thru and apply a constant speed change to give the effect of normal speed down to a slo-mo. It is a very abrupt effect and I redo it as a speed ramp to smoothen the effect – again, I have to do a lot of keystrokes to achieve this.[Shane Ross] “But…to each his own. Premiere is a great application again…can always go back to that. Personally I like how FCP does this.”
Premiere is not as good as FCP and I know that as a fact, and yes, to each his own… but good software should allow for variations in the way it is used; not the “my way or the highway” attitude. I am looking forward to the next version of FCP as I think the NLE wars are hotting up with the latest Adobe offerings, and hope that the Apple folk play with Premiere the way I know the Adobe folk play with FCP.
Baz
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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You can also manipulate the start and end keyframes in the Time Remap parameter in the Motion Tab. It will not extend your clip if you do it that way.
FCP allows a lot of different options for adjusting speed. I don’t understand why people complain about it. I think it’s that many don’t understand how the app really works.
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No, it’s just if you have worked with an NLE that does it intuitively and properly, it does seem stupid and backasswards how Apple has it implemented in FCP. It has been a gripe of mine from version 1.0.
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My Guess as to why people complain about the ‘feature’ is because its anti-intuitive if you’ve migrated from another NLE to FCP.
And moving the whole timeline for the sake of one speed adjustment is a pain in the arse, when other programs like Premiere allow you to only move the particular clip and leave the rest of your timeline alone.
Its a much more serious problem when your working to a particular running time and the software just decides its gonna shift everything by 2 or 3 frames, and you didnt realise? Oh no.
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Not if you adjust the speed first, as you do in Avid. OR if you adjust the keyframes in the Motion Tab. Nothing will “shift”. Most people adjust speed the way they would in their originally learned NLE, not the way FCP does it. And that’s no way to think of FCP.
My opinion, of course. And yes, I came from Avid.
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I want my 30 second spot to stay 30 seconds. If I change the speed on a clip, I want the span of clip on the timeline to stay the same but to have the new media available to slip and slid as I see fit.
Which was how Media 100 did it and i liked that a lot.
Kevin’s so right, we want FCP to behave like our original NLEs and, yes, that’s a silly way to go through life. However, there’s so much about FCP that is just SICK and WRONG.
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[jonathan Hudson] “It just feels like a few too many steps. i think i should be able to select a clip in the timeline hit command+j and have a few more options thats all.”
It may feel whatever but in reality it is fewer steps than what you propose. I can do match frame/speed change from a keyboard. What you want would force me to use a mouse. What you want would also force me to look at the interface instead of looking at the picture I cut.
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There’s the Time Remap tool hidden under the slip tool, you don’t have to open the clip in the viewer and it doesn’t effect the rest of the time line. From what I read it doesn’t look like many people were actually concerned with answering your question and instead opted for calling you a whiner for disliking something within the program. I work in both Premiere and FCP and I agree with you, changing speed in FCP is a huge and needless pain.
I wish people understood that this forum is here for helping others, not to tell others they are wrong for thinking different.
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