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  • Catalyst Browse and Catalyst Prepare

     Scott Francis updated 7 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 14 Posts
  • Neal Barlow

    September 12, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    So I was a little underwhelmed by this announcement. Looks like another competitor to Prelude and Bulletproof, which doesn’t interest me unless it brings something new to the table. Any thoughts? Did I miss something? Will this pave the way for Vegas on Mac?

    Neal Barlow
    To The Skies Productions
    Gh2, Sony Vegas 13, AE6 and Stuff, cause that’s the real secret ingredient.

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 12, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    Dont Know!

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • Neal Barlow

    September 12, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    I guess I was just hoping for something else.

    Neal Barlow
    To The Skies Productions
    Gh2, Sony Vegas 13, AE6 and Stuff, cause that’s the real secret ingredient.

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 12, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    Likewise Neal….

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • John Rofrano

    September 13, 2014 at 5:40 am

    [Neal Barlow] “So I was a little underwhelmed by this announcement. Looks like another competitor to Prelude and Bulletproof, which doesn’t interest me unless it brings something new to the table. Any thoughts? Did I miss something?”

    It really depends on how big your projects are. If you are shooting a feature film or documentary and have terabytes of footage to weed through, having good media management is not an option, it’s a necessity and Vegas Pro has been lacking in this capability when compared to other systems like Avid. For those of us that shoow commercials, event videos, 30 minute TV shows, it’s not such a big deal because media management isn’t an issue normally.

    [Neal Barlow] “Will this pave the way for Vegas on Mac?”

    If Sony wants to compete on the Mac, they have some catching up to do. Vegas Pro editors may not be aware of what other NLE’s offer. For example: in Final Cut Pro X, when you ingest your media, you can use the original source, optionally convert it to a digital intermediary and/or create proxies, remove pulldown, analyze for color balance, classify shots depending on the people that are in them (i.e., close up, wide, medium, 2 shot, 3 shot, etc.), assign tags from folder names, create smart collections, analyze and fix audio problems like background noise, hum removal, and loudness issues, separate mono and group stereo audio, and remove silent tracks. It does all of that automatically simply by importing your media so all of this is done for me before I even start editing! This saves hours and hours of manually correcting and categorizing footage which is what you would have to do in Vegas Pro.

    I guess you can’t miss what you don’t know but Sony is behind in this area and perhaps these tools are an attempt to catch up. I wonder if the rough cuts from Catalyst can be imported into Vegas Pro? or if these new tools are even for Vegas Pro editors to use? or just the CI cloud?

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 13, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Good points John, And true.
    Having such a feature saves a lot of time.

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • Neal Barlow

    September 13, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    I’ve had to come up with my log-in process through Vegas, which works for my shorter projects. I’ve tried Prelude a couple of times, but to be truthful I didn’t really see the benefit for it unless I was going to edit in Premiere.

    Just to clarify John, you really like the way Final Cut X ingests? I’ve haven’t played with it but I run Vegas on Bootcamp so I’ve been tempted to try it out. – Not to hijack the thread here.

    I guess we won’t really know what Catalyst truly is till we see some kind of demo.

    Neal Barlow
    To The Skies Productions
    Gh2, Sony Vegas 13, AE6 and Stuff, cause that’s the real secret ingredient.

  • Scott Francis

    September 13, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    Sounds to me like John is jumping ship to FCPX!!!

    LOL!

    Xavier (Scott) Francis
    Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

  • John Rofrano

    September 13, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    [Neal Barlow] “Just to clarify John, you really like the way Final Cut X ingests? I’ve haven’t played with it but I run Vegas on Bootcamp so I’ve been tempted to try it out.”

    There are a lot of things I like about FCP X and ingestion is only one of them. I got really tired of using Bootcamp and VMware Fusion, mostly because I still had to deal with Windows. I just like working with native Mac apps better.

    I’ll tell you what I don’t like about how FCP X ingests. It cannot work with AVCHD media outside of it’s card folders! I find this to be quite shocking. So 90% of Vegas editors wouldn’t be able to use FCP X if they shoot AVCHD and got into the bad habit of just taking the M2TS files off of the card and dragging them to their hard drive without maintaining the folder structure. This makes so sense to me and I’ve since started saving the entire card… so FCP X has it’s quirks. (all NLE’s do, you just have to find the one that is as quirky as you) lol

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Rofrano

    September 13, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    [Scott Francis] “Sounds to me like John is jumping ship to FCPX!!!”

    I don’t look at it as “jumping ship”. I have simply broadened my pallet of tools that I can draw from. 😉

    I still do all of my photo montages in Vegas Pro because FCP X has no automation tools like my VASST Ultimate S Pro. I’ve been looking at how to develop some but Apple doesn’t have the hooks in there like Sony does. At least, I haven’t found them yet.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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