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  • capturing without an IEEE 1394 port?

    Posted by Carol Ann on August 12, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Hi there,

    I recently bought a laptop (HP Pavilion Dv6) specifically to carry out video editing. I asked the guy in the shop his advice and he told me this machine would be fine. He asked me what sort of camcorder I had and I told him. All great…2 months later I sit down to do some ediding and now find I don’t have a four pin firewire port. I took the PC back and they’ve now given me some sort of dongle video capture device which plugs into my USB and I then put phono’s into the other end.

    I’m using Adobe Premiere Pro CS (old I know) but my laptop / software doesn’t recognise the device. When I use the software which comes with this external gadget it does see the footage and I can capture it using the provided software but it’s converting the analogue into mpg2. When I import into Premiere I don’t have to rerender it which is good.

    I’m just thinking though surely the quality is going to be a lot less than the original Mini DV tape from where it came..it’s now going along phono’s and then being crunched into MPG. It’s a wedding video and I need it to be the highest quality possible.

    Can anyone back me up that this “fix” the shop has given me isn’t great and therefore I’ll try asking for a laptop that does have an IEEE port.

    Thanks

    Carol Ann

    Edward Garren replied 15 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 29 Replies
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  • Brian Louis

    August 12, 2010 at 11:18 am

    <>some sort of dongle video capture device which plugs into my USB and I then put phono’s into the other end<>
    Sounds like a low res capture device particularly if its just three rca connectors(red,white,yellow) you should also mention the brand/model of the camcorder you are using so we know what its capable of outputing

  • Carol Ann

    August 12, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Hi there,

    it’s a Sony DSR-PD150P Although not the camcorder I wanted to use but it’s the only one I’ve got that has 3 phono’s.

    Should have added that..you’re right..soz.

    Carol Ann

  • Jon Barrie

    August 12, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Do you have a slot for a PCIMICA card that can have a FW port.

    ebay might have some or a swap meet.

    – JB

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  • Carol Ann

    August 12, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Hi there,

    Sorry..nope..no slot 🙁

    I just found this which says MPG2 is four times less quality than AVI. So I’m not hugely happy about the external fix they’ve given me.

    https://www.myvideoproblems.com/Tutorials/Difference_betwwen_Mpeg_and_DVAVI_files.htm

    Mini DV through IEEE 1394 is the same quality as what’s on the camera..so it says..so I’d like to try and keep that if I can.

    I could kick myself for not checking it when I walked out the shop. There is something which is similar in shape but on closer inspection it’s basically just a hole!..kinda looks like maybe other models may have the firewire port here. Sigh…unreal. Could all be so much easier if I’d just noticed that…or if the guy had advised me. He did ask me what type of camera I had..we never even discussed getting the footage of it..I just assumed this laptop had the port…unfortunately I’m 2 months down the line now..still have the receipt but they’re not happy about giving me another machine that’s for sure..they’d rather fix what’s happening although I’m not happy about it.

    Thanks for suggesting.

    Carol Ann

  • Brian Louis

    August 12, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    [Carol Ann] “just assumed this laptop had the port…unfortunately I’m 2 months down the line now..still have the receipt but they’re not happy about giving me another machine that’s for sure..they’d rather fix what’s happening although I’m not happy about it.”
    Problem is the laptop they sold you is a entertainment laptop, they no longer have express card slots and firewire which is necessary for serious editing, totally useless for editing, you have to be very careful when buying a laptop for editing purposes, HP doesn’t even have a express card slot in their dv8 series anymore, it appears they are cutting corners to save money.

  • Carol Ann

    August 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    It is a shocker that there’s no port….I couldn’t believe it when I realised. He sold it on it’s processing speed as it’s a quad processor with 4 Gb RAM…500 Gb hard drive..so I just thought that all sounded fantastic and based on any other laptop I’ve had (which I have managed to edit on) I expected it to fly along..and I daresay it would if I could just get the footage in it!

    Well..I’ve been looking at my legal rights and have a couple of pages I’ve printed from the Fair Trading Act and the Sale of Goods Act which basically highlight that they sold me a product which is not fit for purpose and I specifically stated the puprose. So this is the route I’ll take I guess. Although he’s already told me I want get another machine but if I show him these pages and then say I’m taking it the Commissioner of Consumer Affairs then it might sway him. We’ll see what happens.

    Thanks for backing up what I thought already though.

    carol Ann

  • Carol Ann

    August 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    He did tell me that I could capture using the USB port, but I honest don’t see how. He said that he can do that with his laptop and it just depends on the type of camera you have. I told the sales assistant the two types of camera I had, although he didn’t really spend a lot of time going into that, he basically used the information I gave him to dismiss the fact that there was no point in me buying an apple mac as Sony aren’t recognised devices by Apple..so he took me the PC route.

    Sigh..onwards and upwards.

    Hopefully it’ll get sorted or it’s been a costly mistake for me that’s for sure.

    Cheers guys.

  • Eric Addison

    August 13, 2010 at 12:23 am

    “HP doesn’t even have a express card slot in their dv8 series anymore..”

    Mine does…I use it for my SxS cards from my EX3 all the time.

    —Eric
    Owner | 100 ACRE FILMS
    https://www.100acrefilms.com

  • Brian Louis

    August 13, 2010 at 12:58 am

    [Eric Addison] “Mine does…I use it for my SxS cards from my EX3 all the time.”
    When you bought yours’ they had it, I know because I helped someone configure a custom dv8 a month or so ago, two days ago I was doing the same for someone else and there is no port listed and thats basically with all new models. I checked further and found out they don’t consider it necessary.

    Partial listing for dv8t
    Usage Business
    Type Premium innovation at the edge of entertainment
    Battery Life Up to 3.75 hours of battery life (8 cell)+++
    Memory card reader 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader
    Accessible memory slots 2
    Maximum Memory Expansion 8GB
    Ports 4 USB (4th shared with eSATA port),1 Expansion Port 3 connector
    Additional Ports IEEE 1394 Firewire, HDMI
    Hard Drive Protection HP ProtectSmart protects the hard drive & data
    Audio SRS audio + Altec Lansing speakers
    ENERGY STAR Qualified Yes
    Adapter 120W AC Adapter
    Dimensions 17.16 (W) x 11.25″ (D) x 1.32″ (min H)/1.72″ (max H)
    Thinness 1.32″
    Weight 8.77 lbs

  • Brian Louis

    August 13, 2010 at 1:08 am

    [Carol Ann] “I gave him to dismiss the fact that there was no point in me buying an apple mac as Sony aren’t recognised devices by Apple..”
    Thats a bunch of donkey dust, I don’t particularly like Mac products, they are a bit expensive for what you get and are hyped to death, but sony cams work with them

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