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  • Capturing HD from a DVR

    Posted by Chris Babbitt on August 28, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    I want to capture an HD program from my DVR in order to burn a Blu-Ray disc for my own archival purposes. I’m assuming this is legal, since it is for my own use. I have an Intensity Pro card with both HDMI and Component inputs. I just don’t know what capture settings to use. What format / codec would be coming off the output of a DVR?

    Michael Gissing replied 16 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Steve Eisen

    August 28, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    I would say it it illegal. Personal use is not an exception.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Chris Babbitt

    August 28, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Hmmm, that’s interesting, because the cable company gives you directions on how to transfer SD programs using the s-video or composite outputs. Why would they encourage illegal behavior? I would think it would be the same as recording the program in the first place, only I am just saving it to a more permanent format.

  • Steve Eisen

    August 28, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Still doesn’t make it legal. You don’t ask a question that violates the copyright law on a public forum.

    There was a thread about this yesterday regarding FCS software.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Shane Ross

    August 28, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Unfortunately the networks want you to watch the show once…when it airs. Or they allow you to record it to a DVR for viewing when you can. But they do not want you to then copy that to a DVD or VHS to keep always. They never have. This is why they really rallied AGAINST VHS machines back in the day. The only person to convince Congress to allow it was Mr. Rogers (yup, that Mr. Rogers)…so that families could tape Mr. Rogers neighborhood and watch it when they wanted. That is the reason why DVRs are allowed.

    But copying and keeping…they don’t want that. That is why they sell DVDs and shows on iTunes.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Chris Babbitt

    August 28, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    “This is why they really rallied AGAINST VHS machines back in the day.”

    That’s right…. and they lost (the famous Sony case). That’s why we have VCR’s and DVD recorders today, for Legal archiving of TV programs for personal use.

  • Chris Babbitt

    August 28, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    You don’t need to scold me, Steve. I asked a perfectly legitimate question about a very grey and misunderstood subject. If I knew it was illegal, I wouldn’t have asked the question.

  • Shane Ross

    August 28, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Point taken. They want you to only record and view once…not keep forever. I believe that is still illegal. And if the FBI really had nothing better to do, they might arrest people for this.

    But I ain’t no lawyer…but I think it is still illegal to tape and archive shows for personal viewing more than one time.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Steve Eisen

    August 28, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Both Shane and I along with many others here on the Cow agree that it is illegal. “We” are not scolding you. We are just stating what the law is. I did learn something in my Media Law class many years ago in college.

    If you want your answer, go search someplace else. I’m sure it’s out there somewhere. Of course, I could tell you, but it’s gonna happen.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Michael Gissing

    August 29, 2009 at 4:48 am

    Of course laws are different in each country, but I have a Panasonic device with two digital receivers that lets me record to hard drive, on air data streams in SD or HD. It has a built in DVD burner so you can archive these files. So in Australia, that must be legal.

    DVR’s with receivers are capturing the mpeg2 data stream that is broadcast. I don’t know exactly the stream specs for SD or HD and they would likely vary from country to country anyway, but if you can get that data stream off the hard drive, it may just be a matter of extracting the mpeg2 data and writing to DVD or BD.

  • Chris Babbitt

    August 29, 2009 at 5:24 am

    That would be too easy. The only way to get the data off the drive in this unit is to play it back through the HDMI or Component outputs.

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