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Capturing D2 video in PP CS6
Posted by Michael Cohn on August 24, 2013 at 2:08 amI just purchased a Sony DVR10 D2 Player/Recorder and I want to capture the video and audio from a large number of D2 tapes in Premiere Pro CS6. The DVR10 has a composite digital video output (db25) and audio (XLR) but because PP requires a firewire connection, this is where I’m having trouble. I’ve scoured the internet for a db25 to Firewire adapter and can not find one. I’ve also looked for a db25 to USB 3.0 adapter with the same results. Nada. Can anyone offer some advice as to how I might capture the digital video from D2 tapes to PP? Many thanks.
Ben Shoemaker replied 7 years, 9 months ago 12 Members · 38 Replies -
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Jan Janowski
August 24, 2013 at 3:15 amSo you have a Parallel Digital only output?
You will need a Transverter…. not many were made….
Old ACCOM Digital encoders took in D2 Composite digital, created (very expensive) NTSC Analog Composite, and created SDI Digital (YUV) as an option, if I remember…. BUT This means you’d have to have a Capture card that supports SDI.
Did that Sony deck have an analog composite output, or Component output? You might use that, and a DV Transverter, but that won’t have nearly the quality…. but it might be your only option…. If it does have Analog Component output, better check to see if your capture device supports BETACAM Component… Most component is SMPTE Component…. and I’m pretty confidant that Deck was when Sony supplied only Betacam Component levels…. They are NOT the same! You might check the menus to see if can be changed from Betacam to SMPTE.
This would be just as complicated with any other edit system…. Not just PPRO.
Good luck
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Shane Ross
August 24, 2013 at 6:10 amYou need a capture card. AJA.com, Decklink.com, Matrox.com. None of them connect via firewire, you’ll need either a tower with PCIe slots, or computer with Thunderbolt connections.
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Jan Janowski
August 24, 2013 at 12:05 pmBut Shane, D2 Parallel, even when converted to Serial, is not supported on D1 capture cards….
He has more issues than a capture card.Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle
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Michael Cohn
August 24, 2013 at 1:23 pmHi Jan,
Thanks for taking the time to provideo your technical knowledge. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the rs232 port on the back of the Sone DVR 10 (digital composite video out) is a serial connection, though it does not allow for the data transfer speeds of either USB 2 or FireWire 400. I can find rs232 db25 to USB adapters on many web sites (because both connectors are serial) but it seems to me one of the issues is the difference in data transfer speed capacity; USB 2 has up to 480mb/ps while rs232 is normally rated at a fraction of that.
Still puzzling it out.
M
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Greg Leslie
August 24, 2013 at 3:29 pmI agree with Shane — best bet is analog composite out to a capture card or box. D2 doesn’t have components.
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Jan Janowski
August 24, 2013 at 6:13 pmThat 9pin is not RS232, that’s RS422….. That’s machine control.
That D25 isn’t RS232, it’s D2 digital video.Agree with others, your going to have to do this via composite…
If your capture device does not support XLR audio connectors, but RCA’s, you’ll need a Matchbox to convert Balanced Line level to Unbalanced, which should be about -10 or so in level.
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Larry Asbell
August 25, 2013 at 6:35 pmAs Jan Janowsky refered to, you need one of these to do it correctly. These converters once cost several thousand dollars each. The contain very advanced electronics but of course now there is no use for them and as you see they sell for next to nothing. Almost no use — you need one. Get one while you can.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BTS-Parallel-Digital-Video-to-SDI-/290926577692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43bc93481c
(looks like it doesn’t include power supply)https://www.ebay.com/itm/BTS-Parallel-Digital-Video-to-SDI-/290926575319?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43bc933ed7
(also no mention of power supply)https://www.ebay.com/itm/AJA-VIDEO-C10PS-SMPTE-259M-Parallel-to-Serial-Converter-/321075693607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac19a4827
(does include power supply, get this one if you can)And of course as mentioned, you also will need a Mac Pro (or PC Tower) and a PCIe capture card with an SDI input (AJA, BMD, Matrox, etc.). Almost anyone, including me, could see you one of these.
Good Luck.
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Jan Janowski
August 25, 2013 at 7:48 pmFrom what I read from those links……
I Believe that only the AJA unit will support D2 parallel digital to D1 Serial conversion, and I’d call AJA Support first to verify for certain..
The BTS I Believe is for D1 Parallel to D1 Serial conversion only, and that won’t work for your application…You want D2 Parallel to D1 Serial conversion. I didn’t know anyone made a throw down D2 parallel to D1 serial conversion, so I’d call AJA just to be certain.
This will force you to have two other things: A Capture Card, and a bunch of Fast Drives to support the bandwidth of SDI capture…
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Alex Udell
August 25, 2013 at 8:43 pmHi….
If you use something like an MXO2LE from matrox you can capture SDI to a high quality,low bandwidth MPEG2-I frame codec.
this wouldn’t require a big hard drive upgrade.
Alex
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Chris Borjis
August 26, 2013 at 9:09 pma single sata internal drive could capture SD SDI or analog composite just fine as pro res.
I’ve done it many times from digibeta before I had a disk array added to a second edit suite.
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