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Capturing 29.97 digibeta
Posted by Michael Lawson on August 18, 2009 at 9:47 pmIs it possible to capture a 29.97 digibeta at 23.98 within log and capture (without later having to deinterlace or reverse telecine)?
I am using Final Cut Studio 2 with a Kona AJA card, and have it connected to a Sony J-30 deck. Thanks for any tips.
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Shane Ross
August 18, 2009 at 10:35 pmWhy? SD video runs at 29.97. Is this a film that was telecined to tape?
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Shane Ross
August 18, 2009 at 10:55 pmYou SHOULD be able to. Do you have the ALE or FLEX files to create a batch list? THis isn’t my strong area, as I haven’t worked on a film since working on an Avid. But you should be able to capture at 23.98 if you capture on the proper A Frame, and the ALE should get you that.
Then you can capture as DV or DV50 with advanced pulldown removal.
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Michael Lawson
August 19, 2009 at 3:08 pmNo, I do not have access to flex files or the original material. They are sent to me and then I capture and etc.
Filmmaking is like a religion.
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Shane Ross
August 19, 2009 at 5:05 pmOK…so no flex files means that you won’t be going back to get the negative cut, right? Then why do you need to be at 23.98? Just capture and edit at 29.97. I did this all the time on the TV shows I worked on that were shot on film, telecined to Digibeta…we onlined and output to digibeta. All at 29.97. Every TV show did this, until HD came along.
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Michael Lawson
August 19, 2009 at 9:37 pmI’m not trying to edit it, though. I am trying to get the film back to it’s original framerate. I simply want to capture then export it. I’m aware that there’s other software to reverse telecine, but I was wondering if I could do it in the capturing phase.
Filmmaking is like a religion.
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Shane Ross
August 19, 2009 at 10:23 pm[Michael Lawson] “I am trying to get the film back to it’s original framerate.”
Why? For what purpose? What does going to 23.98…well, 24fps if you want to REALLY match…serve? You are not editing it…then what are you doing?
[Michael Lawson] ” I simply want to capture then export it. “
Export it FOR WHAT? Web? DVD? Please…when we ask “why are you doing this,” giving full details of what you are trying to attempt really helps us when we try to help you the best way to do things.
I have been able to capture 29.97 as 23.98…but that was only with telecine logs to make batch capture lists…ones that know where the A FRAME is. Otherwise, you have to try to see if the 00 frame will work and capture that way.
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Michael Lawson
August 19, 2009 at 10:44 pmThe film is old. I don’t have access to the original files. I am trying to get the film up online back and need it to be playable at the original frame rate.
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Shane Ross
August 19, 2009 at 11:19 pm[Michael Lawson] ” I am trying to get the film up online back and need it to be playable at the original frame rate. “
Online…on the web then? Specifically WHERE do you want to show this.
This is like pulling teeth…
Shane
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Steve Oakley
August 21, 2009 at 6:14 amno you can’t directly capture 23.976 from 29.97 digibeta.
the best you can do is capture the material as 29.97, and then use compressor / cinema tools to remove the 3:2PD to generate a new 24P file
and if you wanted to know, the MXO2 can capture 24P native from 59.94 in 720P. if you had one of those might if suggested a very out there idea – set the MXO2 to up convert to 720P AND capture at 24P removing the PD. for now, it can’t detect cadence breaks during capture. it assumes no breaks. might work, but I’ve never tried it
Steve Oakley
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