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  • capture/TC mess

    Posted by Austin Reedy on May 30, 2010 at 7:29 am

    i have captured about 30 tapes from a 2 camera shoot. the shooters used Time of day TC. in capturing, the deck i used had lots of trouble with the time code. even when giving adequate pre and post roll, tapes would either abort or continue capturing after they should have stopped, cancelling caused loss of capture.

    as a fix i used capture now. at the risk of having 1038203 clips i chose to NOT make new clips on breaks in TC. i didn’t realize this meant FCP lost the time code. so now i have a bunch of two camera stuff that needs sunc but i have no reference.

    while that takes a while, i still think recapturing would take forever, and isn’t worth it. but, should I? i feel i’ve done so much work on this so far and would hate to lose it, but might have dug myself into a hole that is too deep with my lost TC. i can still sync (editor wants a timeline with two tracks, one will be toggled on and off instaed of multiclip).

    also, my markers i’ve put onto the clips (EXTENSIVE) aren’t showing up in the canvas…i expected them to…help!?

    Austin Reedy
    Freelance Post
    Austin, TX

    Austin Reedy replied 15 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 30, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Clip markers don’t show up in the Canvas, but they do show up in the timeline in the timeline’s clips… so they are still there. Only sequence or timeline markers will show up in the Canvas. They should show up in the Viewer however. If you double click a clip with markers, those markers will show up in the Viewer and can be navigated to there.

    The danger in what you ended up doing is only that in the event that you lose the hard drive that contains the media, you can’t automatically recapture. So the way forward likely is best handled if you copy these clips to another drive so you have a back up…

    Another way to have handled this is to dub the tapes so they have continuous timecode, and then use the dubs for capturing. Then the tapes themselves are the backup.

    Jerry

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  • Steve Eisen

    May 30, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Another reason to go tapeless.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Vice President
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Austin Reedy

    May 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    we have a second drive, so backing up the digital files is the best bet there.

    the problem is that since they were shooting two cameras without shared audio, the time of day TC was used so that syncing would be easier. the thought was that no matter how many times each of them turned off the camera, the next time it came on, the time of day TC would have kept running, so it would be easy to find (within a couple seconds) where everything was supposed to go. Also it would have allowed the tapes as back up.

    the method i’ve started using (thanks to apple fcp forum genius meg the dog) is using the DV start/stop function to create markers of where the TC breaks. making subclips from those, then using pluraleyes to sync the bulk of everything. my only issue so far is the dv start/stop seems to be creating more segments than are actually there….something i havent figured out yet.

    any ideas regarding this new thing i’m trying?

    Thanks!

    Austin Reedy
    Freelance Post
    Austin, TX

  • Austin Reedy

    May 30, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    ha! well, after the past year of assistant editing with dv project i’m sold. bought a tapeless camera a few months ago and not regretted it.

    Austin Reedy
    Freelance Post
    Austin, TX

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