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  • Capture with usb (any converter or other)

    Posted by Harry Putnam on January 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    I didn’t see a general video forum on Creative cow so thought I’d try here were I’m likely to find people who have had to capture video in all kinds of situations.

    I’m faced with a horrible delema. A month or so ago I bought my wife a spanking new Toshiba Laptop. At the time I was faced with a choice between a laptop with firewire port and 2gb Ram or one with no firewire and 4gb ram. (and still stay within the confines of the sale models)

    I went with the 4GB ram thinking she’d get more use being able to run her NLE and other graphics tools with some speed rather than being able to capture. As a rule I’ve always provided the hardware for our capturing, so didn’t think it would be an issue.

    Now of course she wants to capture…. So far I’ve been able by stealth and falsehood to trick her into thinking I’m the goto guy for video related stuff (I’ve had to keep her pretty sheltered to maintain that)

    After looking around first for usb based video capture and then usb/firewire converters, it isn’t looking too bright.

    I see there are plenty of usb capture devices but they all appear to be based on spif, rca cable or etc.. and not firewire.

    (Has anyone here had any experience with them that can offer some thoughts?)

    So I’m thinking there must be a converter out there. Since usb and firewire are totally different protocols I’m thinking there will be an external box with its own soft/hard ware with firewire incoming and usb out. Something like those canopus converters for analog to digital.

    And in fact I did notice at least one favorable hit. It said something like there is such a tool, but it is rare, hard to find, and quite expensive.

    So in order to save my undeserved rep with my wife, I throw myself on the mercy of the group. If I strike out here… there may have to be a suicide watch set up.

    Running Vegas Pro 10c on Win 7 (64bit)

    John Rofrano replied 14 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Harry Putnam

    January 30, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Another `Never mind’ moment.

    I was laboring under the false notion that the Express_card was used for networking devices only. Once someone relieved me of that nonsense I see plenty of Express card firewire cards.

    Running Vegas Pro 10c on Win 7 (64bit)

  • John Rofrano

    January 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    [Harry Putnam] “I was laboring under the false notion that the Express_card was used for networking devices only. Once someone relieved me of that nonsense I see plenty of Express card firewire cards.”

    Yea, an express card is like the old PCMCIA cards… they can be pretty much anything. I’m not sure if you can return the laptop for the other one as it’s much easier to add memory to the 2GB computer with firewire then to have to carry an express card around all the time just to capture.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Hayley Gommersall

    December 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Hey guys I have a similar problem. I moved from South Africa to the Uk and when I got here I bought my laptop in a hurry and only I knew it did not have fire-wire but had read that you can get a 4 pin fire-wire to usb cable which will work well i just tried it with my SONY HVR AE1 hooked it up to capture the footage i had taken and realised that sony vegas cant see the camera and windows does not pick up camera is connected.

    So I am lost for options really. I might just try and sell my laptop at a huge loss and use money to rebuild a desktop.

    Also my laptop does not have an exspress slot so was looking to see if you get an exspress card with usb to connect to laptop but i am sure as i have tired fire-wire to usb and no results.

    Do you have any other options for me. would really appreciate it

    Hayley Gommersall
    FlyontheWall Productions http://www.flyproductions.co.za
    A media company focused on filming, editing, DVD Resource Development and Web Design.

  • John Rofrano

    December 11, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    [Hayley Gommersall] “Also my laptop does not have an exspress slot so was looking to see if you get an exspress card with usb to connect to laptop but i am sure as i have tired fire-wire to usb and no results.”

    You need to sell the laptop. There is no USB to Firewire device and with no express slot, you are out of luck. So either buy a new camera that doesn’t use firewire, or buy a new laptop. You could also get an external capture device for your camera that uses a hard drive or memory card but they are very expensive. Those are your only choices.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Hayley Gommersall

    December 11, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Hi John thanks for your response, what i have come up with my computer guy is going to take my laptop and build me a new desktop, like a swop which is great so i will be getting this:
    Processor
    Intel Core i3 2120 Processor 3.3 Ghz,
    3MB Cache
    Memory
    6GB DDR3 1333Mhz (16GB Max)
    Configuration 4GB + 2GB
    2 x DIMM slot
    Hard Drive
    1TB SATA II
    Optical Drive
    DVDRW Supermulti
    Software
    Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64
    Display
    Monitor Not Included
    Graphics
    Intel Integrated HD 2000 Graphics
    Input Devices
    USB Keyboard and Mouse Included
    Networking
    Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
    Dimensions
    Width 375 mm
    Depth 180 mm
    Height 360 mm
    Interfaces
    1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
    1 x PS/2 keyboard port
    6 x USB 2.0 ports
    1 x RJ45 LAN port
    1 x VGA port
    Expansion
    1 x PCI-e x 16 slot (Free)
    2 x PCI-e x 1 Slot (Free)
    4 x Sata II ports (2 free)

    and then just adding in my firewire card.

    So i think that is a good deal as it is difficult to sell a laptop without taking a huge loss.

    So pleased about
    this. Just want to get back to editing again.

    Thanks John also great advice

    Hayley Gommersall
    From Topline Promedia http://www.toplinepromedia.com
    A media company focused on filming, editing, DVD Resource Development and Web Design.

  • John Rofrano

    December 11, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    [Hayley Gommersall] “Intel Core i3 2120 Processor 3.3 Ghz,”

    Hmmm… A Core i3 is used for word processing, surfing the web, and watching YouTube videos. It may be inadequate for editing video unless your wife is only workihn with SD DV video. You really need at least a Core i5 and preferably a Core i7 to work with HD.

    [Hayley Gommersall] “6GB DDR3 1333Mhz (16GB Max) Configuration 4GB + 2GB”

    Memory should be added in matched pairs to take advantage of dual channel support. You never want to use mismatched memory (i.e., 4+2).

    [Hayley Gommersall] “Graphics Intel Integrated HD 2000 Graphics”

    This means he’s giving you a motherboard with integrated graphics on the motherboard. Again, not good for video editing. You won’t be able to take advantage of any of the GPU acceleration features in Vegas with those build-in graphics.

    I’m assuming he’s building such a low powered machine because the laptop he’s taking was equally low powered? I guess if the laptop had a Core i3 and your wife was editing video before it should still work but it’s not a configuration that I would recommend. Just be careful about what you’re getting.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Hayley Gommersall

    December 11, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    Hey John,

    This is the computer I was using before with vegas 10 pro:

    Processor
    Intel® Boxed Core2™Duo E8400 Processor – 3.00GHz Dual Core, Socket 775, 6MB, 1333MHz FSB,45nm, x64

    Chipset
    GIGABYTE® “S Series” N650SLI MCP Chipset – Socket LGA775 @ FSB1333 – For Celeron™D, Pentium®DC & Core™2 & Quad Core 2x PCI-E 16x SLI Ready Slots, 2 x PCI, 2 x PCI-E, 4 x DDR2- 800(Dual), 4 x SATA2 RAID, 1 x ATA100, 8 x USB 2.0, Gigabit LAN Durability Series – All Solid Capacitors, 8ch Audio, ATX

    Memory
    X2 Transcend® JetRam™ High-Performance 2GB DDR2-800 240-Pin Module : CL5, 4-Layer PC Board,

    Graphics
    Gigabyte® NVIDIA® GeForce 8600GT, 512MB 128Bit GDDR2, Dual DVI, HDTV, DirectX10, OpenGL, Dual RAMDACS, SLI Ready, Silent Pipe II

    and I had no issues with vegas 10.
    Also i was running XP which never used all my memory. I also looked at the mismatched memory and will change that, cos I remember this being told my when I first bought my first desktop.

    The I3 processor is that not better than the Duo Core that i had.
    Unfortunately I am on a tighter budget this time a round.

    Hayley Gommersall
    From Topline Promedia http://www.toplinepromedia.com
    A media company focused on filming, editing, DVD Resource Development and Web Design.

  • John Rofrano

    December 11, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    I would be interested to hear of the Core i3 2120 performs as well as your Core2 Duo E8400 did. It’s hard to tell on paper but the Core i3 does have 4 threads which I thought you needed a Core i5 to get so it may be OK. Let us know what you think. Good luck.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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