Capture Now Stopped due to lack of disk space on ethernet drive ?

[Bouncing Account needs new email address]

I’m not a big fan of “Capture Now”, it always seems a bit “iffy.”

So I usually set an IN and OUT point and capture that way.

BUT…

Try actually SETTING a limit on “Capture Now” (say 30 minutes) and give that a try.

[David Roth weiss]

Todd,

What is the throughput on your ethernet drive? My guess is that the speed of that drive isn’t close to being good enough to for video capture. Ethernet drives, like USB drives are not meant as media drives. Perhaps playback works fine, but for capture, I don’t think so…

DRW

[Walter Biscardi]

[Todd George] “I am using FCP 5.1.1 on two seperate machines (two seperate seats of the software) both have access to a lacie ethernet drive (the drive is 2tb at the moment there are 1.6tb available) I am using the capture now feature which I have used in the past
on the scratch disk tab for the system settings preference I have the scratch disk assigned to the lacie drive, it tells me there are 1.6tb available I also have the limit capture now check box UNCHECKED the min. allowable free space on the scratch disk is set to 2047mb(default)”

Use Firewire 400, firewire 800, SATA or Fibre channel for your connection. Do not use Ethernet.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com

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[Martin Baker]

The reason the capture is consistently stopping early is because you’re hitting a 2GB file size limit which just happens to be just over 9 mins of DV footage. AFAIK this is connected to the formatting of the disk and may or may not be fixable. As others have said, it’s just a bad idea to be using an ethernet disk for capturing.

Martin
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[Walter Biscardi]

[Martin Baker] “The reason the capture is consistently stopping early is because you’re hitting a 2GB file size limit which just happens to be just over 9 mins of DV footage”

there is no 2GB limit with Mac Formatted drives. I’ve done 30 minute Capture Now’s with 8bit SD and DV with no issues.

If the drive is formatted for PC, then he would have an issue, though then the drive would most likely not work at all for FCP.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[David Roth weiss]

Walter,

But what is the format on an Ethernet drive??? Do you know? Do you know if an Ethernet drive can be reformated as a MAC drive? These are the issues Martin brought up.

DRW

[Walter Biscardi]

[David Roth Weiss] “But what is the format on an Ethernet drive??? Do you know? Do you know if an Ethernet drive can be reformated as a MAC drive? These are the issues Martin brought up.”

I’m assuming an Ethernet drive can be formatted as either PC native or Mac Native. If it was left PC Native out of the box or was formatted PC Native, then it’s going to hit a 2GB file limit. We ran into that issue recently with an animated piece we did recently for an Avid editor. The animation was 3.5GB so we had to split the animation into two pieces.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Martin Baker]

Sure you can capture 2GB+ clips to Mac formatted disks but I didn’t say you couldn’t! As for PC formatted drives, FCP doesn’t care until you hit 2GB file size and then things fall apart as they have done in this case. The 9 minutes was a clue.

Martin
Digital Heaven, London UK
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[David Roth weiss]

From a review on the Lacie site:

One interesting option I noticed was the disk format menu (Figure 4). By default, the mini’s internal disk is formatted in a least-common-denominator format of FAT32 so it can be directly accessed when USB-plugged into a Windows, Macintosh, or Linux system. But one downside to FAT32 is a file size limitation of 2GB.

To get around this limitation, the mini allows you to reformat the disk with a Linux ext3 filesystem that supports larger files, albeit with reduced portability. For example, if you format the drive with ext3, you will no longer be able to use the mini as a USB external drive under Windows or Macintosh. It will still be usable as a network drive under all systems, you just won’t be able to directly plug it into the USB port of a Windows or Macintosh system. While this isn’t ideal, it at least gives options to users who need support for files over 2 GB.

[Todd George]

Hello all

first off thanks to everyone for your insight …. I do remember reading about the 2gb limit a year or two ago

anyway we left the lacie drive pc formatted (default) because at some point down the line we may want to have a pc network into the video files and allow one of our student work study employees to work with the media files on premiere so it seems like we’ll have to capture video on the machines locally and upload the files to the ethernet drive

just out of curiosity, are any of you out there using large storage drives like this in your workflow perhaps you have some tips and tricks to share

again thanks to everyone

take care and keep cool as someone told mother nature it was summer in north east ohio and she is kickin ass

Todd George
Instructional Media Services
John Carroll University
University Heights, OH 44118