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  • Can’t make sense of submission requirement… any ideas?

    Posted by John Martin on August 9, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Hi, made a film to enter an online competition using cinema 4d and after effects and have finished up with a large uncompressed quicktime 1024×576 progressive pal animation (codec.).. will probably finish it to digibeta in work at some stage. Anyhows for the preliminary online competition on their guidelines it states…

    “All submissions must be in High Definition Video. We strongly recommend you upload to this competition your high definition video. We recommend compressing your film into a Quicktime file with the H264 codec to achieve a relatively small file with a high resolution.

    The website will accept files up to 500MB in size. Depending on your internet connection speed, this upload may take a few hours.”

    How does this work? is it possible to have a h264 hd file? any ideas as to what settings i can jiggle in final cut pro export to meet this?

    cheers

    s

    John Martin replied 18 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Zane Barker

    August 9, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    H264 makes fine HD files. Use compessor to make your h264 file.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Rafael Amador

    August 10, 2008 at 4:18 am

    [Sean Hunt] ” have finished up with a large uncompressed quicktime 1024×576 progressive pal animation (codec.)”
    If you are going to DigiBeta, you shouldn’t have worked with this size. 1024×576 is not standard PAL. You are using Square pixels. You should have worked in 720×576 PAL Anamorphic.
    Anyway if you have to go to HD this will be not a big problem because you will have to go to Square pixels.
    if you have to submit a HD movie, you need to resize to this format (1080 or 720). Then do your H264 with this size.
    you can do all at once with Compressor.
    Pick a H264 Preset. You have one in Apple> Formats> Quick Time> H264.
    Duplicate it an set the new size; Inspector> Geometry> Frame Size. Set Pixels Aspect: Deafault for Size, or Square.
    You need to set the Frame Control ON, and the Resize Filter to BEST to get a good up-sizing. This will makes Compressor really slow.
    In the Compressor Video Setting set Frame Rate CURRENT, Key Frame AUTOMATIC, Frame Reordering ON, and Multy-pass.
    Data Rate try with 4Mbps. With this data rate a 16 minutes video would take 500MB. Anyway you have to discount from here the space needed for the audio.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • John Martin

    August 10, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    cool, thanks for that, makes perfect sense! guess i figured hdv was a codec in its own right and couldn’t get my head around the h264 requirement. Just in regards to the digibeta master, i was only going this route because i edit for a tv station geared around a blackmagic digibeta workflow. Finished in 1024 uncompressed mainly because its never caused me problems before and works throughout the workflow, not a big fan of the image sequence route. What would you suggest would be the best format method to master to? We have a hdcam recorder deck also but obviously my export is far different to the hdcam format than say the digi. Any ideas?

  • Rafael Amador

    August 10, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    [Sean Hunt] “guess i figured hdv was a codec in its own right and couldn’t get my head around the h264 requirement.”
    You are right about HDV, but they don’t say HDV but High Definition Video. A bit confusing but I guess they just meant the size, not a particular codec. This is why they suggest the H264.
    To go to Digibeta you need to re-render your movie anyway. You are in Animation 1024×576 and need to go to 10b Unc 720×576 Anamorphic.
    Choose as Easy Setup 10bUnc PAL and check Anamorphic.
    Open a new sequence and drop your Animation movie in it.
    This fotmat is Upper first so be careful if your Animation movie is Lower first.
    Set “Render all in High Precision” and Motion Rendering BEST. This should help with the change in pixels aspect.
    If you could redo the rendering in Aftereffects could be the best. Just exporting the same movie as 720×576, 16×9 and Upper first. Apple 10b Unc as the codec, and then in FC you wouldn’t need to render to print in Digibeta.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • John Martin

    August 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks for that guys. Yea I started the project and then when close to finishing it saw the competition and decided to adapt it. Always work in that format so just decided to adapt the format to fit rather than spend a hundred odd hours rerendering everything from source to finish. Thanks again,

    s

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