Cant get DVD to verify!

[Michael Sacci]

Sorry there no way a 3 step process is faster than a 2 step process. Plus DVDSP does not have to build the project every time in order to make a disc. The Format will use just the previous build that is on the hard drive. Plus the fact that you are burning at a fast speed within DVDSP it is really the faster process.

.img files have always been problematic, not to say they don’t work but they can be source of issues. If you are ftp’ing files it is better to write a DDP 2.0 file (Zipped). Same as when send the file on a hard drive.

But hey to each there know.

Anna – also the 90 min preset is a waste of time and can cause playback issue. If your movie is under 90 minutes change the encoding to CBR instead of VBR. Bitrate set at 6.3Mbps. Audio needs to be ac3 @ .192 Mbps for stereo. There are a lot of things that make disc not very compatible but burning with the finder never helps. It may not hurt but it never helps.

Also what do you mean – “Quick time so i’m trying to export the mpeg to on single video stream from DVD studio pro hope full this will work ” DVDSP doesn’t export streams. There is a program called Mpeg Append and it will properly stitch 2 or more m2v files together and give you a valid single file.

[Terry Mikkelsen]

Sorry there no way a 3 step process is faster than a 2 step process.

I guess I didn’t clarify the speed issue.

You need to proof your project, right? If I burn a disc and watch it on a TV, that is a good way to do it. But, if I just make an .img file, I am skipping the burning process. So, I am now proofing the project sooner by not burning a disc. If I need to make changes I don’t have a coaster and each subsequent change is faster and faster without a burn each time.
Now, if you are doing 10 & 20 minute projects, these time savings can be viewed as negligible, but when you are looking a filling a disc, whether it is DVD-5 or -9, these savings are mandatory. And if you need to make multiple copies, tying up DVDSP for burning is not advisable if you could be working on other paying work instead of watching a progress bar.

.img files have always been problematic…

As far as an .img file being problematic…I have never had a single problem. Having said that though, you refer to FTPing files, and I never FTP raw files (unless html, jpg, gif, etc…) as binary vs ascii encoding transmissions can corrupt a file. It is always wise to compress a file (.zip or .sit) for transfers (not for space savings as that is negligible in this instance).

…the 90 min preset is a waste of time and can cause playback issue.

How has the 90min preset ever caused playback issues? (Assuming your total assets fit within the space requirements of the disc). I don’t know of any bugs or mis-calculations in that preset. So, yes it may take longer to encode vs a CBR setting, but not an error causing issue.

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[Noah Kadner]

I loves me some Ken Stone but you have to realize much of the stuff that’s up there is very old and outdated in terms of technique. So I’d take what you read up there with a grain of salt. I have never and would never use Disk Utility to burn a DVD authored in DVDSP- way too many chances to screw things up as you’ve found. Just do it in DVDSP as simple as possible. I’ve authored dozens and dozens of discs for replication and duplication this way and never had a single issue.

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[Terry Mikkelsen]

I’ve authored dozens and dozens of discs for replication and duplication this way and never had a single issue.

I too have authored many discs with .img files without a single issue. (Though I’ve never used the Finder to burn my disc, so I don’t know if that makes a difference. I use Toast.) But the point is that Anna is not getting to the burning process, from what I can tell in her posts. So it seems that either method is not going to help at this point. The problem lies within the project, its assets or temp files.

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[Michael Sacci]

[Terry Mikkelsen] “Though I’ve never used the Finder to burn my disc, so I don’t know if that makes a difference. I use Toast.) “

But burning with the Finder is what this thread is about. I have no problem with Toast but that is different from burning with the finder.

And no matter how you look at it your way is an extra step, if you like it fine, not trying to get you off of it but it is an extra step that is not needed. If I want to proof a DVD I just do the build, why do I need that in an img file? That is an extra step. Then if I need to Format and there are no changes DVDSP uses that Build folder and no extra time is spent. If I do want to use Toast to burn the DVD once again I use the Build folder.

And as I read the Anna’s probably is that she is not getting through the burn process. It is hanging on Verify, which for me means the burn has taken place and the computer is checking the burn.

I’m just trying to give her the easiest way to get her job done.

[Terry Mikkelsen]

I’ve just tried to build and format another file with DVD stuido pro as a test to see if i get and problems and this message appeared

The file is locked and cannot be opened for writing. Unlock the file and try again.

Sorry, I was mostly responding to this post by Anna. When I initially read it, it appeared to me to be clarification to her initial post, not a separate issue. Now, I am a bit confused.

Maybe Anna can repost (with an update) some more detailed information on what the problem exactly is, the steps taken to produce that problem and what steps have been taken already to fix the problem.

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[Anna Conlon]

Hi Everyone

First of all thanks so much for all the help. I have six potential customers waiting on my sample so this is very important I really appreciate the help and time you’ve all given. Where would i be without creative cow!

Sorry for the delayed response …I’ve been following all of the advice and the problem still isn’t fully resolved. I have however gotten one disk to burn successfully (still using the ken stone method) I then tried it again and got the bloody verification message again.

Terry – i checked all permission and File vault and I’m ok there. Unfortunately the save as didn’t make a difference but it was worth a go!

Micheal – Most of my movies are 90min because they are weddings I’ve checked the bit rate and they seem to be already set as you’ve advised. I think I may have in the past had problems with the bit rate and that’s why they are set correctly but I will be sure to keep an eye to this when i’m compressing . On another thread I read that it was bad to string mpegs together and I do think this is defiantly where part of my problem is rising. Within DVDSP i’ve gone to the export>mpeg file. This has given me on single video stream mpeg which I’ve then reimported to replace the string of mpegs on the time line. Because I’ve done this the build and format I send to my desktop works every time. This is one problem solved.

Another thing I was doing wrong (and this is very stupid) i wasnt unselecting the lossless during the build and format. As soon as I did I didnt get any messages about permission again. i dont know how they relate but they must some how

I think that the disc I’ve been using are part of the problem but only part. I’m using new disc TDK +R and i’m having more success.

So to recap – Lossless been switched on was one major problem
– The DVD quality made the burns unsucessfull part of the time
– and the string of mpegs was not helping either

Currently i’m trying not to send to the desk top and I’m just burning directly in DVDSP to see if I have any more luck with that. I will report back

[Anna Conlon]

ok I’ve just tried to do a burn directly in DVDSP and it gave me the thumbs burned successfully but then when i tried to watch it it stalls at the end ….its actually in the roughly the same place near the end of the dvd where every disc is failing …..i’m going to try a build in DVDSP to see if I get any error messages.

I’ve been thinking that with the one disc that seems to be ok should i try and get copies of it?? or is that risky?

[Michael Sacci]

Anna, you need to give detailed list of your settings, all your settings. All the steps you are taking. Comments like, “I checked the settings and they are correct” are not helpful. What do you mean by stalls? for a sec? stops the DVD? Freezes on that frame?

You are simply all over the place is describing what you are doing.

+R media is never recommended. This is more of a playback thing, -R are safer for compatibility.

Within DVDSP there are 2 ways to make a disc. Burn (I never recommend) or Build and Format. Once you build a project you can just use Format if no changes are made to the project. You should be using the Build and Format. Yes it is a good idea to uncheck loseless linking.

The m2v files need to be clean and single files within each track. The audio needs to be ac3 and not uncompressed PCM.

So if you want more help you need to provide a simple step by step list of what you are doing and details of your settings.

Also what HD are you using for your build Video TS, how is that formatted.

[Anna Conlon]

Hi I’ve re read my post and I’m sorry I though I was been clear

no were in my post did i say “I checked the settings and they are correct” I did however say “I’ve checked the bit rate and they seem to be already set as you’ve advised”.

and what I meant by that was you earlier advised “Bitrate set at 6.3Mbps. Audio needs to be ac3 @ .192 Mbps” I checked my files and the bitrate and audio are at these correct settings. Again sorry if my post were confusing I was trying to reply to everyone’s suggestions and therefore my post my seem a little confusing.

As for how i’m burning the files I’ve tried every method Build/Build and Format and the ken stone method. At the moment I’m doing a Build and then Format inside DVDSP. I’ve purchased new disc and I have both DVD- and DVD+ media and they are both producing unreliable results. At the minute almost every second disc fails. Really random? I am just persisting with burning and frustrated because its really not making any sense.

I understand if everyone is sick of this thread …this just doesn’t seem solvable.