Canopus or Adobe Media Encoder?

Adobe Premiere Pro

Canopus or Adobe Media Encoder?

Posted by Tranquilo on October 26, 2007 at 7:59 pm

Hi everyone, I have a question about MPEG encoding for DVD creation.

Here is my system:
Windows XP Pro, SP2
Premiere Pro 1.0
Encore DVD 1.0
Canopus DVStorm2

Question 1: Should I be using the Canopus MPEG Encoder or the Adobe Media Encoder inside Premiere? The Canopus encoder does not have a setting for 2 Pass VBR. The Adobe encoder is very slow. The Adobe Encoder uses the MainConcept MPEG Video Encoder. OR, should I put my AVI files into Encore DVD and let Encore create the MPEG2 files?

Question 2: If I use the Canopus Encoder, what should my settings be (see choices below)?

Here are my choices for settings for MPEG2 Elementary Stream –
1. VBR or CBR?
2. For VBR, there are two settings, “Bite Rate=?” and “Max Bit Rate=?”?
3. GOP, I Frame or IBBP?
4. Closed GOPs, yes or no?
5. Picture value= ?
6. Interval Value = ?

Any other tips, suggestions, observations, hints, etc regarding the settings that will lead to the most compatible DVD creation would be greatly appreciated. I am finding that the DVD’s I create don’t work well in some DVD players. The disc usually freezes or skips. I use both DVD-R and DVD+R and get the same problems. I have used Maxell media, Fuji, TDK, Verbatim, Memorex, and probably a few others I can’t remember right now.

Sorry this post is so long. Any help or advice appreciated.

Thanks,
Kurt
Costa Rica

Tranquilo replied 18 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
3 Replies

Mike Velte
October 26, 2007 at 9:29 pm

Some say ProCoder {no longer Canopus) is better for long movies over 2 hours.
I use the Adobe Media Encoder mainly because Procoder is not compatible with CS3 and the Adobe thing works great.
It is slow because the default settings include 2 pass VBR and a quality level of 5.
2 pass VBr is great for movies over 90 minutes that have a good mix of motion (including camera panning) and very low motion scenes. The first pass analyzes the video for this and then takes your average bitrate, catalogs where more bits are needed and were less would be just fine.
You need to calculate your average VIDEO to fit your movie on the disc. Your max VIDEO bitrate can be as high 8 mBps. Many of us have found that combined bitrate (VIDEO and Encore encoded AUDIO as Dolby) over 8.2 mbps can cause some DVD players to choke and studder.

Encore and Premiere have the same encoder except for audio and Encore will encode the Elementary Audio stream that Premiere created as Dolby. This saver exporting from Preiere as an .avi file.

Regarding studdering, I have found that the media is often the culprit, although some players just dont like recorded DVD as opposed to replicated/

Keep your Video bitrate to below 8mbps in all cases. Encore will add .2 mbps for the audio.
Tranquilo
October 27, 2007 at 8:22 pm

Hey Mike,

Thanks for the advice. I think I will give the Adobe Encoder a try. Maybe I’ll go surfing here in the Pacific while I wait for my output files.

Kurt
Costa Rica
Tranquilo
October 28, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Okay,

I have run into a problem. When I first tried exporting with Adobe Media Encoder the render kept stopping at around frame 7000. I went online and found an update (Adobe_Media_Encoder_PPro1.0_Update_v1.1.exe) for Premiere 1.0 and loaded it. Now it appeared everything was fine. However, at around 2 1/2 hours I got a blue screen of death. Re-booted and tried again and another blue screen of death after about 2 1/2 hours.

This is probably not the right forum to solve this problem but I thought I would try here first.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Kurt
Costa Rica

Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up

Creative Communities of the World Forums