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  • canon XLH1 in camera color

    Posted by Peter Crawford on July 18, 2008 at 1:07 am

    Ive just bought a 2nd hand XLH1 camera and am not that impressed with the overall picyure quality and colour.- Dull and boring!
    Id like to get into the menu and adjust the in camera settings(gamma, Sat etc).
    Can anyone please reccommend any detailed settings (values)that they find yields great looking images.

    Thanks

    Miles Johnston replied 17 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Todd Terry

    July 18, 2008 at 1:44 am

    Oh yeah, I know what you mean…

    The XLH1 can look fantastic, but the factory defaults are nothing short of terrible… very flat and boring.

    I’d say just hook the camera up to a good monitor shooting a well-lit colorful scene, and dig into the menu and start tweaking. There are (if memory serves) 23 different parameters that you can adjust. You will probably especially want to adjust gamma, knee, black stretch/press, pedestal, setup, and color gain.

    We’ve made a bunch of presets which emulate my favorite filmstocks. Unfortunately, they wouldn’t be of much use to you as they were not made for use with the stock lens (the cine lenses I use look very different than the stock… greatly different contrast and color), and since I don’t use it much I have not gotten around to making any presets for the stock lens yet.

    It’s not hard though… and don’t be daunted by the zillions of choices. Just start at the top of the list and make small adjustments, using the old eye doctor’s “Better like this?… or better like this?” system… and work your way down.

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Trey Gregory

    July 21, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Hi Peter-
    I’ve been using an H1 for the past 2 years and just love it! Obviously there are too many tweakable settings to give you any 1 group that will work for you. I agree with Todd T that you really should just sit down with a food field monitor and try out all the settings till you get something you like.

    But here is one, with the stock lens, that I’ve found works pretty well for narrative projects.

    I use this as a jumping off point and really tweak the preset for each project/location.

    Gamma – Cine2
    Knee – high
    Black – Press
    Set – -9
    Sharpness – 5
    HDF – High
    DHV – 0
    Coring -2
    NR1 – 0
    NR2 – 0
    Color Match – Cine2
    Color Gain – +3
    Additional color controls – Per-Project

    The individual color controls are definitely a matter of taste. But you can get some really cool effects if you mess around with those.

    Also, if you haven’t been there already go here and print this out:

    https://www.usa.canon.com/app/html/HDV/XLH1/total_image_control.shtml

    Trey Gregory
    ECG Productions – Atlanta
    HD Production and Post
    https://www.ecgprod.com

  • Miles Johnston

    December 10, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Very useful advice. I found the Factory setting very dull, very low colour and very washed out.DULL

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