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Canon xf300 footage looking like video not film
Ok ive just shot a music video using a canon 7d and a canon xf300. The problem im having is that the xf300 although amazing picture quality it looks too much like video rather then film. I was wondering if anyone had any advice or tips on how to just take that ‘video look’ edge off it.
The footage was shot at 50mbps and 25p and is Pal. But it just stands out so much next to the 7d footage. Ive got magic bullet frames but not 100% how that works as everything i do looks the same.
Any help would be very very grateful. cheers
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To my eyes video will never look like film.
But, you can try to approximate the look with…
1. Excellent lighting – a key ingredient that makes film looks great.
2. Correct exposure to get the DOF film is capable of and to generate the wide tonal range that is another film attribute.
3. Get grain and emulsion generators like the new Film Convert plugin
4. Skilled color correction
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[david hare] “The problem im having is that the xf300 although amazing picture quality it looks too much like video rather then film.”
It looks like video because it is video.
There’s a reason cameras like the Arri Alexa cost so much. I love the EPIC, but it too looks more like video than film. If you want to get a film look, you should start by shooting at 23.98. Make sure to create an image that is as close to Log colour space as possible. In other words, don’t shot with high contrast. Then you should invest in some good film grains and overlay those on your image. Finally, the colour grade makes a huge difference in how the image is perceived.Hope that helps.
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Perhaps the c300 footage was shot with Canon log… That will greatly reduce the contrast and make everything look flat and ugly, until you apply the correct look-up table or aggressively color correct the image to bring the contrast back. The C300 is capable of producing beautiful, cinematic images… It shouldn’t look like “video”.
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[Phil Mastman] “Perhaps the c300 footage was shot with Canon log…”
He’s not talking about the Canon C300.
The camera being used is the XF300 which is a prosumer video camera. -
Ooops. My bad. Yes, that’s a whole different thing. Have C300 on the mind, working on a project I shot with one right now.
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[Craig Harris] “If you want to get a film look, you should start by shooting at 23.98.”
The original poster is talking about PAL, and most 24p is simply sped up ~4.167% to 25p for playback in PAL countries. 24p vs 25p acquisition will therefore not be a huge factor.
In non-PAL countries, the decision of acquisition frame rate may also depend on the deliverable requirements.
I don’t believe that the choice of acquisition frame rate should be made on purely artistic merits without also considering the technical ramifications.
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[Walter Soyka] “I don’t believe that the choice of acquisition frame rate should be made on purely artistic merits without also considering the technical ramifications.”
I agree.
His point however had to do with the media not looking like ‘film.’ The main problem there is the choice of camera and acquisition.You can always create multiple versions of your delivery (23.98, 25, 29.97, 59.94).
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Did you create this footage with a Canon XF300? Can’t believe it.
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