Canon HDV camera records DVCPRO HD as well?

[Toke]

Yep, just an another camera with interlaced ccd’s that we don’t need or want…

[Vincent Rice]

I think it would foolish to dismiss it in such a cavalier fashion. It has by far the best feature set and probably the best lens of any of the new prosumer cameras. We will see in due course what 30F and 24F actually mean.

[Noah Kadner]

I’d agree with that- though Canon is being silly with their description of this frame mode. They really need to explain exactly what they mean by 24f and exactly how it differs from 24p.

Noah

[Nasher]

The other advantage this camera has over the HVX is the option of shooting with the Pro-35 Digital adaptor, giving real wide angle lenses and primes.

I think it’s important not to refer to the signal as HDV – I can’t see Canon wasting money on fitting a MPEG2 convertor between the camera head and an HD-SDI spigot. Seems to me they’re most likely pumping out an uncompressed signal and leave it up to the user to compress however they choose. I imagine the limiting factor on the image qaulity will be the 1/3″ chips.

Personally, I’d never hire a HDCam deck. The DVCPro HD codec is cleaner IMHO – of course all the Pana cameras are working with 720 and the Sony’s 1080 which puts them ahead but, feeding identical signals into them, DVCPro HD wins – I think.

The thought of shooting with this camera, fitted with the Pro-35, recording uncompressed Blackmagic HD via a single BNC cable is really exciting. The tether is a pain but I’d just tell the DoP to get used to it:-)

Cheers
Bettsy
Burra Films

[Nasher]

The other advantage this camera has over the HVX is the option of shooting with the Pro-35 Digital adaptor, giving real wide angle lenses and primes.

I think it’s important not to refer to the signal as HDV – I can’t see Canon wasting money on fitting a MPEG2 convertor between the camera head and an HD-SDI spigot. Seems to me they’re most likely pumping out an uncompressed signal and leave it up to the user to compress however they choose. I imagine the limiting factor on the image qaulity will be the 1/3″ chips.

Personally, I’d never hire a HDCam deck. The DVCPro HD codec is cleaner IMHO – of course all the Pana cameras are working with 720 and the Sony’s 1080 which puts them ahead but, feeding identical signals into them, DVCPro HD wins – I think.

The thought of shooting with this camera, fitted with the Pro-35, recording uncompressed Blackmagic HD via a single BNC cable is really exciting. The tether is a pain but I’d just tell the DoP to get used to it:-)

Cheers
Bettsy
Burra Films

[Vincent Rice]

The HD out is definitely uncompressed. Canon have mae some interesting choices with this camera.

[Emery]

Some very “interesting” choices which dont make much sense to me. HD-SDI out, time code in and out, along with the interchangeable lenses looks fantastic. However, Im not going to always be shooting tethered to 20k worth of capture gear. If instead of HDV they went with something like grass valley is offering (direct to disk jpeg2000) and had a real 24p, this camera would be incredible.

[Chris Borjis]

“If instead of HDV they went with something like grass valley is offering (direct to disk jpeg2000) and had a real 24p, this camera would be incredible.
”

That would be incredible Emery.

[Brian Deviteri]

…and probably something every one of us would want to snag for the under $10k price range with hard drive or solid state drive attachment.

[Karl Holt]

the announcement of GV using IOmega Rev does beg the queation why P2 needs to be such a high data rate. The Rev is just fast enogh to do 100mbps, which is all we need.

Why do Panasonic put so much empahasis on getting a data rate that is largely unused and then charging the consumer $2000 for around 8GB.

So I agree, while the HVX200 is a great camera, something which recorded to a more afforable and larger media at jpeg2000 would probably wipe the contender out.