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  • Canon 7d 720 60fps Slow Mo Moire problems

    Posted by Tom Mason on January 31, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I’m generally a 5D Mk2 user, but recently borrowed a 7D to do a short project that called for slow mo. The results were mostly good, but in a couple spots while going up staircases, I run into this dreadful moire problem on the thin lines at the edges of stairs. I gather than the 7D in this mode is only drawing the image from select rows of pixels across the sensor, and so there’s a real jump between them that causes this. I have to think this is something that a lot of people have run into, but I can’t find any good solutions. I’ve tried the Flicker Filter in FCP 6 but it barely does anything. Here’s a sample of what I’m dealing with.
    https://vimeo.com/19403501
    Would really appreciate any suggestions!
    -Tom

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    Christoph Müller replied 15 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jeff Greenberg

    February 1, 2011 at 3:55 am

    Convert it to prores. Try this

    From Martin Koch DVXuser

    Try blurring the V channel via this filter:

    Save the text file in s.Moire Buster.txt(/ Library / Application Support / Final Cut Pro System Support / Plugins. Restart Final Cut Pro and look for the filter in the “5D fixes” folder under the video filter menu.

    [code: 1:298 aaea762] scriptid “Moire Buster” / / DO NOT LOCALIZE
    filter “Moire Buster”;
    group “5D fixes”;

    / / Blur the V channel in YUV to soften moire

    InformationFlag ( “YUVaware”)
    input blur_amount, “Blur”, slider, 30, 0, 60

    code

    float color space;
    colorSpace = kFormatYUV219;

    BlurChannel (src1, dest, 0/renderres, 1, 0, 0, 0, aspectof (dest));
    BlurChannel (src1, dest, 0/renderres, 0, 1, 0, 0, aspectof (dest));
    BlurChannel (src1, dest, 0/renderres, 0, 0, 1, 0, aspectof (dest));
    BlurChannel (src1, dest, blur_amount / code renderres, 0, 0, 0, 1, aspectof (dest ));[/: 1:298 aaea762]

    You might also try the free blend fields filter from here:
    https://www.mattias.nu/plugins/
    But you’ll need to nest the clip first (to force the processing pipeline)

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer
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  • Tom Mason

    February 1, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Thanks, but limited success on both of those fronts. The “blend fields” option works best – it dims the flickering down a bit but it’s still pretty noticeable. The Moire buster did very little, really just shifted the color in odd ways.
    The difficult thing about this one I guess is that in the original video (and Pro Res version) the thin bands of light at the top of each stair are broken and go dark when they hit the gaps in the 7D sensor lines. So it looks like a dotted line that dances back and forth. And for it to be fixed, that dotted line either needs to be removed or filled in with a thicker continuous line. Any way to do this?

  • Chris Wiggles

    February 5, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    DSLRs have moire problems. They’re not properly designed for video because they don’t take nyquist into account and are not a complete optically-designed system for shooting video resolutions. It’s not something you can get around entirely besides hiding it with blur, or putting a blurring filter in front or your lenses and re-shooting. Or using a different camera. Life is full of compromises, and this is one of those unfortunate compromises of using a DSLR for video.

    There is no free lunch, sadly.

    Regards,
    Chris

  • Christoph Müller

    March 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Did you try the Marvels DSLR Moire filter for FCP from Jorgen Escher? Get it here: https://colorbyjorg.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/now-available-my-dslr-anti-moire-filter-for-fcp-free-download/

    Let me know if this helped out.

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