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  • Cannot install Panther on new Mac?

    Posted by Walter Biscardi on August 23, 2005 at 12:19 pm

    Hi all,

    I got a call from a friend yesterday who was trying to install Panther onto a brand new Dual 2.7 but the machine would not boot up with the Panther Install disc or from a Firewire drive with Panther installed. After perusing the Apple Support site, it notes that any machine shipped with Tiger installed will not allow an older OS to be installed onto that Mac. Now I can understand OS 9 not allowed to be installed, but another version of OS 10? Doesn’t make sense.

    Why was he trying to install Panther onto another partition? To run FCP 4.5 which as I’ve found, runs the absolute best with OS 10.3.8.

    Anyone able to succesfully install Panther onto a machine which shipped with Tiger?

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
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    Shane Sokolosky replied 20 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Jeff Carpenter

    August 23, 2005 at 2:37 pm

    After perusing the Apple Support site, it notes that any machine shipped with Tiger installed will not allow an older OS to be installed onto that Mac. Now I can understand OS 9 not allowed to be installed, but another version of OS 10? Doesn’t make sense.
    =====

    I think that’s all there is to it. The reason is that Apple spends a lot of time making sure that their OS works with most every past machine, they don’t want to ALSO spend time making sure each new machine works with every past OS. It sounds to me like they put something in there to sabotage that from working.

    That’s kind of rude since I’m sure that Panther WOULD work on that machine, but I guess they don’t want to deal with problems coming up (which they would eventually if they’re not testing this combination) and people complaining about them.

    So he could…
    1) Trade it in for an 2.5 gHz from a 3rd party retailer
    2) Upgrade to FCP 5
    3) Just use 4.5 on Tiger and see how it goes

    I dunno, what do you think? My first thought is to tell him to try #3 for now and fall back to #2 if it doesn’t work out. I have a feeling #2 should be ok for a while.

  • Chris Tompkins

    August 23, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    I had the same prob. Received a new 2.7 and wanted OS 10.3 and had big problems and then no startup. Finally got the Disc drive open and reinstalled 10.4.

    Chris

  • Shane Sokolosky

    August 24, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    I believe the apple document is more pertaining to the CDs that actualy shipped with the machines, for example I get a dual 2.0 that comes with the panther OS on the system restore cd, and I get a dual 2.7 that comes with OS X 4.0. If I try to install the cd that came with the dual 2.0 on the dual 2.7 It will not work.

    That’s what I get from the Apple Document.

    but…..

    I happen to have an OS X 3.5 installer CD that wasn’t included with a machine, it was bought as just the OS. So for grins, I installed it on a Dual 2.7 and have had no problems at all, ran software update and it updates it to OS X 3.9 with no problems, and final cut seems to be ok (the application opens, captured some DV but haven’t configured it with a capture card yet). We also have a dual 2.7 over here running OS X 3.9 with AVID express and it doesn’t have any problems at all either.

    So I guess, It could be one of three things,

    1.) The dual 2.7s need to be booted from a CD containing OS 10.3.5 or higher?

    2.) We’re working with older dual 2.7’s (about a month old from today)?

    3.) It could be how our dual 2.7’s are configured, Radeon 9650, 512 MB RAM?

    So not to sure which one of these is really the answer here but maybe we can get more feedback from other people.

    I guees I should point out that apple does not recommend installing older versions of an OS that ships with the machines but, do we always play by the rules when we need our editing systems to work?

    Shane Sokolosky

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    ProMax Systems inc.
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