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  • Cannot edit to Panasonic HD1200 – FCP & Decklink Studio

    Posted by Jay Cordova on October 30, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    While it appears the Blackmagic has fixed a RS-422 pin 8/pin 2 reversal problem with the Decklink Studio card addressed in a previous post (older Studio version, no HDMI) — I still cannot edit to the Panasonic HD1200 deck.

    Has anyone else had this problem? I see no posts but am hoping so.

    The deck records fine from other systems. With “Edit to Tape” window open, Insert and Assemble are simply non-functional, and they do not “light up” when footage or a sequence is dragged onto them. Other machines (digibeta, SP, others) work fine.

    Further — if I turn the Panasonic “record inhibit” switch ON, the Insert and Assemble “panels” become active, but then there is an error that the machine is either in local or tape is record inhibited. Of course this is expected, but beats me how this is the only circumstance in which I get Insert and Assemble active from FCP.

    FCP 6.0.6

    Decklink 7.3.2 (updated today and it contained a firmware update for Decklink Studio card)

    Mac OX X 10.5.8

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

    J. Cordova
    Springboard Creative/Atlanta

    Walter Biscardi replied 16 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 30, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    [Jay Cordova] ” I still cannot edit to the Panasonic HD1200 deck. “

    No you can’t. Not with RS-422 control. That’s the way Panasonic designed it. The RS-422 works for playback only.

    If you want to perform an Edit to Tape you must use Firewire control. And there you can only perform an Assemble edit and you have to figure out your 1200’s TC offset.

    I owned that machine for 2 years. The TC offset on our deck was 11 frames.

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  • Jay Cordova

    October 31, 2009 at 6:41 am

    Thanks a ton. I don’t like it, but I’ll accept it and eliminate much more time and frustration. Crashing in manually and archiving works fine anyway. I’ll bump the addition of the firewire board up on the priority list.

    Why in the world would they design a machine that doesn’t record via RS-422, and with no insert edit capability whatsoever (if I understand you correctly)?? That seems totally nuts to me.

    In any event, thank you oh so very much — I’ll stop spinning my wheels.

    J. Cordova
    Springboard Creative/Atlanta

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 31, 2009 at 11:33 am

    [Jay Cordova] “Why in the world would they design a machine that doesn’t record via RS-422, and with no insert edit capability whatsoever (if I understand you correctly)?? That seems totally nuts to me. “

    To keep the price cheap (at the time.) It was designed as a “cheap” VTR to ingest material, primarily via Firewire to support the Panasonic DVCPro HD format. Panasonic also came out with 2 “studio” DVCPro HD VTRs at the same time and it was expected that if you required record capabilities, you would step up to one of those $60,000 VTRs.

    Insert Edit is only available on higher end studio type of VTRs, not every pro VTR has that function. For instance we have the old Sony UVW-1800 BetaSP recorder and it has Assemble Edit only.

    I never understood the RS-422 thing either. It was explained to me by Panasonic that the machine “has only one set of electronics.” I don’t know what that means, but that’s the answer I was given.

    Now all of this being said, the manual is quite clear when it discusses Record function that only Firewire control can be used and in fact, it really does not encourage an “Edit to Tape” function. Despite that, you actually can get an accurate Edit to Tape once you figure out what your particular VTR TC offset it. I delivered at least 12 and maybe up to 20 episodes of “Good Eats” to the Food Network with masters edited to that VTR. TC was completely accurate.

    Edit to Tape RS-422 control was the main reason why we purchased two of the HD1400 VTRs when they came out. These VTRs do support full Edit to Tape, including Insert, editing capabilities.

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